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bad luck with my MTH engines

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Posted by selector on Thursday, April 1, 2010 6:15 PM

dominic c
I have a Bachmann Dynamsis. Oh what do you mean by resetting? let me know Thanks Again JC

Okay, I jumped to the conclusion that you were operating your MTH engine with MTH's proprietary DCS  control system, their own version of DCC (it isn't DCC, but you can control their engines using DCC, as you are doing with your Dynamis.)  Gotcha now.

 As far as I know, all decoders can be reset, or have their factory default CV settings restored to original.  This includes the DCS decoders, which your engine should have.  In DCC, some decoders, most of them in fact, require CV8 to be programmed with a value of "8".  The QSI decoders have a three step reset with three different CV's.

Sometimes the chips get a bit scrambled, say during a short in the rails, and when you correct the fault and restore track power, the engine behaves differently...even in weird and scary ways that make you reach for the track power switch really fast. Shock  This is when you do the reset so that you can start over.  If the decoder won't reset normally, following instructions, it usually means factory service.

My question still, though, is why didn't the Dynamis sense that there was a short and cut power inside of the 4-100 millisecond it should have taken to sense it.  I guess it has something to do with where the short took place, but it is beyond me to explain it.  Maybe Randy Rinker or someone else can explain it?

-Crandell 

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Posted by dominic c on Thursday, April 1, 2010 4:41 PM
Crandel Thanks for your reply. I did have to take it back. I talked to someone at MTH and he tried to explain that the drawbar connection, if touched by one of the wheels can cause a short that can't be reset. He said they have seen this happen before and that they redesigned the drawbar and would be putting the new one on mine. So he basically was saying to me it was a design flaw. The bar has 2 slots and I was using the 2nd slot away from the engine. But I went to clean the wheels and when I put it back, I used the closer slot by mistake. One curve proved to be to tight for the tender and the front wheel popped up. This, I guess, is when the wheel touched the drawbar. Causing the short. I don't know if I buy this, but what other choice did I have. Oh to answer your questions: There was no movement just a buzz.. I don't have DCS. I have a Bachmann Dynamsis. Oh what do you mean by resetting? let me know Thanks Again JC
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Posted by cudaken on Thursday, April 1, 2010 3:14 PM

  Can you turn the sound off? I have had two engines suck up spikes into there speakers.

I sure know how you feel, I had to send back more than my fair share of $300.00 plus engines to BLI. But, they have a out stand warranty department and made things right.

       Cuda Ken.  

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Posted by selector on Thursday, April 1, 2010 12:22 PM

Joe, I'm afraid my remote diagnosis isn't going to make your day...although I could be wrong about it.

The buzz...did it go on for maybe three or four seconds before you shut down power and removed the engine?  If it was a short that happened, and the buzz continued for more than two or three seconds before you managed to shut off the power, I fear the DCS system's short detector was not able to shut off power on its own, as it should have.  Meaning, your decoder probably did the floppy chicken.

You may need to revisit your track wiring, or your DCS system is faulty.  I have had my share of derailments and shorts, believe me, but never a fried decoder.  One unlikely possibility is that the speaker packed it in at the same time the tender derailed, but I would not bet much on that one.

Will the engine still move, but also just buzzes?  Have you tried a reset?  If it won't respond to any commands, then I'd say you have little choice but to send it in.

-Crandell

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bad luck with my MTH engines
Posted by dominic c on Thursday, April 1, 2010 10:37 AM
I was wondering if anyone could help me short of returning the engine? My MTH Challenger's tender jumped the track at a very low speed, and the tender started to buzzz.. I took the complete engine off the track, shut down the power and reset it back on the track. When I did, it still buzzed and I can't get it to stop. Needless to say the entire engine does not work and the tender only buzzes. Only yesterday I returned my jclass for not smoking. Woe is me. $900 down the tubes Feeling like s--t Joe C.
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