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"I didn't know that train tracks were next to a train station."

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Posted by R. T. POTEET on Saturday, November 28, 2009 1:59 AM

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Last winter I was at the Jackson St. Roundhouse / Museum in St.Paul MN, which is right next to the BNSF mainline between Mpls and St.Paul. When a long unit train of coal was going by, one lady who was visiting kept asking one of the museum volunteers about hauling coal in open-top cars. She said she thought it was wasteful, since so much of the coal would blow away in transit....Confused 

This lady's thought was not as humorous as it first appears. Remember the 2005(?) derailment on the UP/BNSF line in the Powder River basin. It took them a week or longer to jackhammer their way through over twenty years accumulation of coal dust cemented with rain and snowmelt to the ballast and ties.

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Posted by Allegheny2-6-6-6 on Saturday, November 28, 2009 12:27 AM

 I was visiting Howard Zane's Piermont layout at his house one evening after the Timonium show and there must have been 50 or 60 people in his basement at least. One women asked him this is wonderful do you put it up every year at Christmas time? If anyone knows him you can just imagine one of his classical facial expressions, I think he just said yup sure do.

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Posted by howmus on Friday, November 27, 2009 8:34 PM

Last summer at "Diesel Days" at the Rochester and Genesee Valley RR Museum I was working as a car host on one of our cabooses.  When the guests board the train (after a trolley ride) at Midway station, I usually stand by the steps and tell them they can choose to ride either of the 2 cabooses or they can have a cab ride in the locomotive.  One young mother with her two small children looked at me, then the red caboose, then the green caboose, and finally at the locomotive.  She then turned to me and said, "Which one is the locomotive?"

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Posted by Darth Santa Fe on Friday, November 27, 2009 11:29 AM

A while back, I was showing my trains and layout to one of my uncles. He was a truck driver, so he hears a lot of things while he travels. So he went on to tell me that a single diesel engine has over 20,000 horsepower. I knew that wasn't right, so I let him know that you could only get that power from a large consist. After a few minutes of trying to convince him of that, I eventually gave up, and we came to the conclusion that maybe it's 20,000HP of traction that they have. Oh well...

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Posted by chatanuga on Friday, November 27, 2009 10:19 AM

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I remember the old passenger station in Columbus, Ohio on North High St

The tracks ran under the street level station and could not be seen from the entrance

you accessed the trains by going down a  flight of stairs and could not see the tracks till you boarded the train

 

That would be the old Union Station, which is now I-670.

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Posted by chatanuga on Friday, November 27, 2009 10:18 AM

Back shortly after I got all of the track and wiring finished on my layout, a friend of mine was visiting, and I was showing him the progress on the layout.  He saw the double crossovers at the one end of my yard and said, "So that's how they get from one track to another."  I thought it was kinda funny.

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Posted by Allegheny2-6-6-6 on Thursday, November 26, 2009 10:57 PM

 While on a tour out at Steam Town one summer a volunteer was explaining the  basics of the controls in the cab of the Big Boy on static display. A very well informed kid explained about breaking, firemen, engineer,  Horse power, how many cars it would pull etc.the whole 9 yards.

As soon as he was done with is segment one of the people asked him where the gas pedal was and before he even got a change to answer a women asked how do your turn it and whats that big lever you have your hand on used for (The throttle) I couldn't resist and said isn't that the one that operates the ejection seat I though a few of the old timers were going to fall out onto the ground.

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Posted by indiana rr on Thursday, November 26, 2009 10:56 PM

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Anybody else have people that asked some "ignorant" train questions?

Must be your first day on any forums.

 

 

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HAHAHA!!!  I agree.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, November 26, 2009 10:48 PM

The steering wheel thing I could somewhat see. When I was a kid that's how I figured they changed track until I learned how a switch really works. I also always thought back then the doors on the sides of a diesel locomotive were space for the crew to store things like tools and coats.

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Posted by teen steam fan on Thursday, November 26, 2009 7:30 PM

A few years ago, I had some friends over for a very crude operating session. One of them wanted to bring some cars into the yard, went clear through the switch, How come it doesn't go through the other way? I have the wheel all the way." Uh, Cody, That's the throttle. You manually have to throw the switch. That means is this little bar to move the pionts.

More recently, I asked a friend if he wanted to join my operatorating crew. I told him we would be working in the yard. He asked me if I wanted him to cut my grass.

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Posted by TMarsh on Thursday, November 26, 2009 2:35 PM

And I quote "They HAD to have seen that truck across the tracks. They could have just stopped."

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Posted by Dave-the-Train on Thursday, November 26, 2009 2:22 PM

Looking at Clapham Junction as a small girl my Aunt wanted to know how the train drivers knew which way to go.  Of course we know that they don't but have to have signalmen to tell them.  Naturally in more equal modern times it isn't unusual for either to tell the other where to go...

For thirty years I heard flat tyres at work and I've twice seen cars with dragging brake shoes go by with the whole tyre glowing white hot but it was only this year that I finally got to clearly see a flat tyre - a rather extreme case - the loco had 9 inch flats on the second wheelset.  The other three sets had been able to turn a little and had massive burns through the tyres into the rims and slight flats.  All these examples and there a still plenty of railwaymen and enthusiasts that don't realise that a lot of railway wheels are made up of several different types of steel in different elements of the wheel... of course some wheels are "monoblock" designs.

Of course the daftest idea is that signals or engineers stop trains...Cool

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Posted by wjstix on Thursday, November 26, 2009 2:03 PM

Last winter I was at the Jackson St. Roundhouse / Museum in St.Paul MN, which is right next to the BNSF mainline between Mpls and St.Paul. When a long unit train of coal was going by, one lady who was visiting kept asking one of the museum volunteers about hauling coal in open-top cars. She said she thought it was wasteful, since so much of the coal would blow away in transit....Confused 

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Posted by C&O Fan on Thursday, November 26, 2009 1:47 PM

I remember the old passenger station in Columbus, Ohio on North High St

The tracks ran under the street level station and could not be seen from the entrance

you accessed the trains by going down a  flight of stairs and could not see the tracks till you boarded the train

 

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Posted by markpierce on Thursday, November 26, 2009 1:30 PM

Tracks with rails to spare.  "Where's the track?"  Gee, guy, 

 

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Posted by tomikawaTT on Thursday, November 26, 2009 1:10 PM

I recall, way back in my youth, taking a fellow Cadet-Midshipman to Midtown New York.  As we crossed Park Avenue north of GCT, he got a confused look and asked, "If that was a railroad station, where are the tracks?"

I looked up the wide avenue, with its generous center islands, and answered, "They're right under your feet."

He started to give me a really strange look.  Just then a train passed under the nearest ventilation grid (the reason for those center islands) with the usual grinding, gear whine and squealing flanges.  In mid'stride his comeback changed to, "Well, I'll be ...."

Don't know why that surprised him.  We'd taken the subway to get there.

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Posted by Bill H. on Thursday, November 26, 2009 10:30 AM

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Anybody else have people that asked some "ignorant" train questions?

Must be your first day on any forums.

 

 

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Posted by jwar41 on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 10:44 PM

Perhaps we have all been there (on each side of the coin) at one time or another.

More decades ago then I care to count, I found myself reporting to start work as a laborer with Western Pacific, at the Oroville roundhouse.

The Foreman took me to the Steam cleaning track at the end of the shop, and after showing me how to start up and shut down the steam cleaner. He then said "steam clean  the trucks and fuel tank". I looked around and I asked "what trucks..Ah don't see no trucks? ...All I see is a bunch of locomotives."

Of course when I said that, there were also three other older employees behind me that started cracking up laughing at me,  then they all started razzing me.Ashamed  But what I really regretted saying in their presents while trying to regain my composure is," You want me to steam clean clean the Cow Catcher too."

However many years latter when I became a Foreman and I was on the other side of the coin.  I do enjoy a little humor a young lad asked what the letter "F" designates on the front of a locomotive stood for, being he answered his own question I said  the F is designated for the fatal end of the locomotive. Big Smile other things I chuckled about is "Will you quit calling it a hitch.... its a coupler" "whatyaaa mean I cant call the superintendent a frog"

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Posted by route_rock on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 10:28 PM

  Had a friend of mine call me one day when it was pouring down rain and ask wehre are you? I am at work waiting to get this locomotive out to its train. Long pause. Your working? Yeah why? I thought you didnt work when it rained. To his defense he was a construction guy lol.

  I like the steering wheel one.I always thought about having a wheel with me to act like it had fallen off while going through a crossing.But i figure the RFE would get a phone call and well he has a sense of humor but the Supt doesnt lol.

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Posted by leighant on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 9:49 PM

 

I think I read that onct upon a time, like before 1850s, railroad ticket offices were frequently NOT located by the tracks but at a separate location.
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Posted by dehusman on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 9:10 PM

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Anybody else have people that asked some "ignorant" train questions?

Must be your first day on any forums.

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Posted by ns3010 on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 9:04 PM

So last night, we were on an oubound NJ Transit Multilevel train. My dad and I were sitting in the upper level (my mom and brother were sleeping down in the lower level).

My dad says to me "Why does it look like we're so high above the tracks?"
I'm like "Uh, dad. We're on the TOP level..."

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Posted by andrechapelon on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 8:50 PM

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He said wow what a great job but you forgot the steering wheel.

 

 

The steering wheel gag never gets old. Ive had people ask me the same thing and I always laugh and explain that a steering wheel kinda goes against the whole premise of having tracks...

 

-Cahrn  

I'm hoping my memory isn't faulty, but if I recall correctly, a  throttle resembling a steering wheel was used in some Swiss electric locomotives (Re 4/4, Ae 6/6, Re 6/6, etc.).

At least that's the way I remember it. Haven't been to Switzerland since the late 80's. 

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Posted by twhite on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 8:36 PM

I've had a few from people not familiar with railroads or railroading.  My favorite happened a couple of years ago when I had a party at my house for some fellow teachers.  They wanted to see my MR run, and I happened to have a Yellowstone hooked up to a freight on the team track in Deer Creek.  I started it off with the train and one of the teachers looked askance at me and said, "That locomotive is too long.  It will NEVER go around that curve!"  BTW, she's a Physics instructor. 

I smiled at her.  "It's called an Articulated." 

When the front driver set wheeled into the curve, she stared at me.  "I doubt that REAL locomotives ever do that." 

I just smiled.  It was either run the train or give her a History Lesson.  Besides, most of the other company was mumbling things like "That is COOL!"

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Posted by cahrn on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 8:15 PM

locoi1sa
He said wow what a great job but you forgot the steering wheel.

 

 

The steering wheel gag never gets old. Ive had people ask me the same thing and I always laugh and explain that a steering wheel kinda goes against the whole premise of having tracks...

 

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Posted by selector on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 8:06 PM

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That quote was someting a relative of mine said when I drove her from the airport.  I was completely shocked.  I mean it would be like saying something like the runway isn't next to the airport terminal.  She later asked, "When did they start doing that?"  My response was, "For quite some time." 

Anybody else have people that asked some "ignorant" train questions?

Just goes to show ya....passenger rails are a thing of the past for a huge component of today's society.  I guess subways are out of their history, too. Dead

True story: about three years ago my sis in law dropped by for a chat and some info.  We got to talking about environmental things, and the subject of my N&W models came up with all the coal hoppers.  She stated that why would the railroads have invested so much in hoppers and huge engines when there was so little coal used in N. America.

Uuhh...say what?

I had just learned of shorpy.com, and scooting her aside (she was seated at my computer for some reason that I can't recall...) I entered that site and soon found the images many of you will know...the ones with the black-faced breaker boys and such.  She grew quiet.  I showed her youtube videos of twinned Y6b's at the front of 10K ton coal drags, with another Y on the back end.  I didn't have to lecture her, or attempt to humble her....I let the images do the educating for me.

I didn't bother to find pictures of blast furnaces and ask her if she knew their purpose.  I figure it was enough for one day.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 7:47 PM

I was giving a quick tour of my layout to some friends, switching some cars with the locomotive pushing, and one of them pointed to the cement hopper on the leading end and asked where the engineer sat...

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Posted by locoi1sa on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 6:45 PM

 I was super detailing an F unit cab and took it to work to show someone. He said wow what a great job but you forgot the steering wheel. I said it was still in the mail.

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"I didn't know that train tracks were next to a train station."
Posted by wholeman on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 6:36 PM

That quote was someting a relative of mine said when I drove her from the airport.  I was completely shocked.  I mean it would be like saying something like the runway isn't next to the airport terminal.  She later asked, "When did they start doing that?"  My response was, "For quite some time." 

Anybody else have people that asked some "ignorant" train questions?

Will

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