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Posted by jon grant on Sunday, August 23, 2009 5:45 PM

I've made a start on the baseboards for the new HO layout, so I can run some of my more modern locos and freight cars. Set in Northern Alabama during the 90s-00s, It will be a small switching layout - 10ft scenic and 4ft fiddle yard at one end, but with the option of adding another scenic layout to the other end of the fiddle yard. I will be running NS, Southern, CSX and BN/BNSF diesels on the layout (one at a time on a switch job) and the freight cars will reflect the area - mostly NS/SOU, BN and CSX/CSX predecessors.
 
I am constructing the boards with integral legs and the 2 scenic boards will bolt together into a box structure so I can fit it into the car. The layout will use Tortoise switches and run with a NCE ProCab and be operated from the front. The backscenes will be removable to keep weight down and location dowels used to mate the boards together. The fiddle yard has been buiklt to use the cassette tracks that I retired from Sweethome Chicago.

First job was to cut the end pieces for each of the three boards and fit the location dowels


I made the basic frame deep enough to fit the Tortoise motors and to house the folding legs. The frame was cut from 2-by-1 pine.


Next job is to fit the lid (track bed)


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Posted by Capt. Grimek on Sunday, August 23, 2009 8:51 PM
John, I'm a big fan of your urban layout work. Awesomely talented you are! Easily one of the best urban modelers in the world. *******I have a possibly silly question. Is your icon photo really you or a member of "Pink Floyd?" I know we often use "fun" pics for our icons but curious. I've seen so much of your layout but never you, that I know of... Thanks.

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Posted by markpierce on Sunday, August 23, 2009 8:55 PM

Is there an American source for the equivalent of the metallic location (alignment) dowels?

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Posted by R. T. POTEET on Monday, August 24, 2009 4:41 PM

markpierce

Is there an American source for the equivalent of the metallic location (alignment) dowels?

Mark

I haven't seen any alignment hardward exactly like Jon Grant is using but I have seen some similiar; I get -- or at least I was getting -- several specialized woodworking catalogs and most of those had several designs.

You may find these in the hardware section at Lowes; you may find them at Home Despot; a better bet would be at an Ace or True Value Hardware store. A surefire bet is a specialized woodworker's supply store and I'm sure that there are a bunch of those in the Bay Area; just tell the clerk what you're looking for.

Another thing you might consider: you can buy all kinds of mating hardware at Lowes and Home Despot; this type hardware is frequently used on Assemble-it-Yourself furniture.

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Posted by Margaritaman on Monday, August 24, 2009 4:55 PM

http://www.mcmaster.com/#alignment-dowels/=3bz1ia 

A "real" hardware source with a ton of other parts you never knew existed.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 25, 2009 2:05 AM

 Jon,

I am a great admirer of your "Sweet Home Chicago" layout - a masterpiece of an urban layout. I bet your new one will be as excellent as this one. Mind to tell us a little more about your new layout, i.e. track plan, setting, theme etc?

I am just sooo curious!

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Posted by jon grant on Tuesday, August 25, 2009 3:31 AM

Once the frames had been cobbled together, I added the Sundeala baseboard. At the moment it is a solid rectangle (5ft x 21in) but the intention is to remove the unwanted bits as and when the scenery is added, to reduce the overall weight.


The two main boards were supported on Sweethome Chicago's exhibition legs to get an idea of the overall size and height of the layout. I intend to add one pair of legs to each board which will fold inside the structure for transit. Only 1 pair is needed as the boards will piggyback together.


Now for the fiddle yard

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Posted by jon grant on Tuesday, August 25, 2009 3:32 AM

markpierce

Is there an American source for the equivalent of the metallic location (alignment) dowels?

Mark

 

I got mine in England but they arent cheap

http://www.sherwoodmodels.co.uk/osc/product_reviews.php?products_id=2967


You might want to Google 'Pattern makers dowels' for an American supplier.

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Posted by jon grant on Tuesday, August 25, 2009 3:35 AM

Sir Madog

Mind to tell us a little more about your new layout, i.e. track plan, setting, theme etc?

I am just sooo curious!

 

All in good time - well, about a fortnight, the way the layout is progressing. Got to keep the mystery and suspense levels up.

Jon 

  

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 25, 2009 5:16 AM

 Sir Jon,

or should I say "Your Cruelty"?

Two more weeks to wait will bring the tension beyond the  boiling point ... Smile,Wink, & Grin

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Posted by jon grant on Tuesday, August 25, 2009 4:45 PM

With the main scenic boards done, I painted the top, bottom and sides of the Sundeala/Homasote and set them aside to dry, before adding integral legs. I will be adding cross-bracing under the Homasote to stop it sagging, but only after I have laid the track and fixed the Tortoise motors in place.

I then set to work on the fiddle yard. This is just a flat board to support the fiddle cassettes that were retired from Sweethome Chicago when I upgraded to turntable fiddle yards - waste not, want not.


The new fiddle yard for SWA has 2 sets of integral legs so it stands independently, the legs being braced with metal bars


I also built a fascia panel - to hide the 'magic and mystery' that goes on 'Stage Left'


Finally, a shot of the legs folded into the fiddle yard - the whole thing folds flat to only 4in wide.


Now for some integral legs and backscenes for the scenic boards

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Posted by jon grant on Tuesday, August 25, 2009 4:50 PM

Capt. Grimek
I have a possibly silly question. Is your icon photo really you or a member of "Pink Floyd?" I know we often use "fun" pics for our icons but curious. I've seen so much of your layout but never you, that I know of... Thanks.

The photo is of Professor Denzil Dexter - a character from 'The Fast Show' which was a brilliant comedy sketch show in the 1990's - much quoted by Johnny Depp, of all people. That's pretty much what I looked like until I got my hair chopped off for charity last October.

A photo of me, taken this evening, will appear in my next post....Aaaarrrgh!! 

 

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Posted by jon grant on Tuesday, August 25, 2009 5:24 PM

Things are starting to take shape quickly now the big jobs are out of the way.

Here's a shot of the metal bracing for the fiddle yard legs, held in place with wing nuts for speed of removal

 

I also got a delivery of adjustable feet so that the boards can be easily levelled on uneven floor, a must-have for my cellar


The newly-painted scenic boards now have their folding legs and adjustable feet, one pair of legs per board, as they piggy-back onto the free-standing fiddle yard. Here is the first shot of the layout in its entirity - just under 15ft long by 21in wide - and it didn't collapse under the weight.


Next for some backscenes....

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Posted by jon grant on Tuesday, August 25, 2009 5:46 PM

We're bang up to date with the layout, now.

I took these photos this evening with the painted backscenes and fascia board in place. I've included a shot of me to indicate the track height - I'm 5'10" and the track height is about 46"


I've also added the drapes to give an impression of the overall presentation. So far it has taken just over three weeks and I havent laid a single piece of track yet.


The wooden support sticking up above the view block will be part of the name board and lighting rig.


So, that's Sweethome Alabama completely up to date. I want to make the lighting supports and name board next before painting the backscene sky, which should be done by the weekend. Then I can start laying some track.

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Posted by jon grant on Tuesday, August 25, 2009 6:02 PM

Finally for now, some of you may be wondering what happened to Sweethome Chicago, to get the room to build Sweethome Alabama. Maybe it was shelved, sold, scrapped for parts, or given a Viking funeral?

To answer the question I took a panned photo of my cellar this evening......


Sweethome Alabama

 


Wall

 


Sweethome Chicago


I realise the basement/cellar looks tatty but, hey, there's a layout to build.

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Posted by Ibflattop on Tuesday, August 25, 2009 6:49 PM

Holy Maceral Jon, What did ya go and do! Did you join the Military? Man I didnt realize that was you without your Hair! What is PF going to do???????????????     Kevin

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Posted by jon grant on Monday, August 31, 2009 7:26 PM

The lighting brackets have now been built (and modified twice, so far) and have been bolted in place.


I have also had time to fit the fascia board to the front of the lighting brackets.


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Posted by jon grant on Monday, August 31, 2009 7:44 PM

The fascia is held in place by 4 bolts and wingnuts for ease of removal and a 'suitcase clasp' holds the 2 parts together.

 

I will be experimenting with the lighting effects by using fluorescent lights with 'warm white' tubes, at the rear of the layout and spotlamps at the front, behing the fascia boards. Here is the first of the 2  fluorescents in place, and the quick-and-easy way of attaching them.


The fascia boards take all of 30 seconds to dismantle - one clip and 4 wingnuts (ideal for dismantling the layout after an exhibition.


Now to go and paint the fascia boards and lighting brackets


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Posted by secondhandmodeler on Monday, August 31, 2009 9:30 PM

I have to reply to this thread just so it's easier to link back to for reference.  I can't wait to see how this evolves!  I think you'll accomplish more in a month than I have in a year!

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Tuesday, September 1, 2009 8:57 AM

So, are you going to take both Sweethomes on the road?  At the same time, or alternating shows?

Seriously, you should write a book on transportable benchwork.

It takes an iron man to play with a toy iron horse. 

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Posted by jon grant on Tuesday, September 8, 2009 3:23 PM

Over the past week, Sweethome Alabama has taken two backward steps and one step forward - rather like a drunk trying to get home.

Firstly, I decided I didn't like the increasing sag of the Homasote, so I ripped it all off the layout


This was replaced by 5.5mm thick marine plywood sheet - much less sag to it and, even with some underboard bracing, will not weigh nearly as much as the Homasote.

 

Now on to the other backward step...

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Posted by jon grant on Tuesday, September 8, 2009 3:39 PM

I wasn't happy with the high gloss finish to the dark red of the fascia boards, even after coating them in 2 coats of satinwood varnish. The second backward step was to repaint everything with eggshell-finish lacquer red. I much prefer the finish now and the paint goes on so much easier.


I also painted the lighting brackets and the back of the layout black....so half a step forward


Now for the real step forward

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Posted by jon grant on Tuesday, September 8, 2009 3:54 PM

I deliberately set one section of the baseboards lower than the rest, so I could lay a sheet of foam to the correct height as the WS track underlay. The foam I used was from a camping bed roll and I used it in an area where I didn't want a  steep ridge to the track ballast. It was also dirt cheap.


The WS underlay butts up nicely to the bedding roll


BTW, the gons are a couple of old Roundhouse examples I messed up.


Next up are to wire up the lights and then I'm almost ready to start laying some track

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Posted by jon grant on Monday, September 14, 2009 9:08 AM

Over the past few days, I've added a yard lead to get the track from the fiddle yard to the layout proper, behind the backscene.


Once fitted I was knew where to cut the hole in the backscene so the track could enter the layout, the hole being slightly higher than the tallest 'excess-height' car in the fleet.

Once these 2 preliminaries were out of the way I was able to lay some track - finally.


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Posted by jon grant on Monday, September 14, 2009 9:37 AM

The Peco code 83 track has been fitted behind the backscene and laid on WS roadbed, all the way to the interchangeable fiddle yard cassettes.


At the FY end, the last 6 inches of track changes from code 83 to code 75, so that the rails match with the tracks on the cassettes. I have also soldered the rails at the join between the layout and the fiddle yard board, which will be cut with a Dremel cutting disc.


The fiddle yard cassettes align with the track using a set of home-made bolts - the square-section brass tube and the code 75 rails are soldered to a scrap of PCB and screwed in place. Plastic toggle switch caps finish off the brass wire bolts.


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Posted by jon grant on Tuesday, September 15, 2009 5:34 PM

I made some progress today and laid some ballasted track all the way up to the break between the two baseboards. I also remembered to fit the under-track, uncoupling magnets.

Here is the ballasted area with the holes cut into the ballast to accept the magnets. I also had to chisel out some wood for the intensifier plate that fits under the magnet.


I adapted the turnouts for DCC operation as per Peco's instruction sheet and drilled the holes for the Tortoise and the wire to the frog, before pinning the turnout and track in place. I will remove the pins only after the track has been ballasted and glued.


My next job is to cut some wood strips to the profile of the ballast, so I can add some brass screws to hold the rails in place, where they cross the two baseboards.

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Posted by fifedog on Wednesday, September 16, 2009 7:26 AM

Ellison, Allen, Odegard, Olson, Furlow, Grant...

Outstanding work, Jon. Bow

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Posted by jon grant on Sunday, September 20, 2009 5:44 PM

fifedog

Ellison, Allen, Odegard, Olson, Furlow, Grant...

Outstanding work, Jon. Bow

Laugh A long, long way to go yet, Fifedog, but thanks for the compliment 

I have been busy laying some more track over the last few days. The first obstacle was to get the tracks over the baseboard joint.

Using my tried and trusted low-vis method (once the ballast is laid) I glued some stripwood and inserted brass screws at the baseboard joins, sitting just under the rails. The rails are then soldered to the screws before being cut.

When used in tandem with the patternmakers dowels, I get a perfect alignment every time


To keep the two tracks evenly spaced I cut a template equal to a scale 7ft wide. When placed between the sleepers of two tracks I get the correct spacing for two facing Peco #6 turnouts.


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Posted by jon grant on Sunday, September 20, 2009 6:10 PM

Once the boards joint was crossed I made quick progress and have now got most of the track, underlay and undertrack magnets fitted and glued.

I started by finishing off the loop.


I then laid the tracks in the west yard - The foam underlay here is a flat sheet, as I want to inlay the tracks into the dirt, rather than have them properly ballasted.


I had to cut the back off the building at an angle so it fitted between the track and the backscene


I have now run out of undertrack magnets and will have to halt the tracklaying until some more arrive. I suppose I can fit the Tortoises and do the electrical feeders while I'm waiting for Postman Pat.

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Posted by Packers#1 on Sunday, September 20, 2009 7:39 PM

 Wow, layout is looking good, love the track arrangment!

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