chpthrls Just a quick question for anyone more familiar with RR ops than I. I noticed in most of the pics where locomotives or train cars are being carried or pulled in a train, there is a gondola between the lead loco and the rest of the train. Is it to provide better visibility for the engine crew, or crushability factor in case of an oops? Gerry S.
Just a quick question for anyone more familiar with RR ops than I. I noticed in most of the pics where locomotives or train cars are being carried or pulled in a train, there is a gondola between the lead loco and the rest of the train. Is it to provide better visibility for the engine crew, or crushability factor in case of an oops? Gerry S.
Probably for weight distribution on bridges, I have a pic in my collection of a Western Pacific 4-6-0 sans pilot, cab and most accessories after a cornfield meet atop a flatcar, a second flat car contains the remains of the tender.
Dave
The frst one, I thought "that looks like Altoona" before I scrolled down to read the caption.
The last one - that looks like a shrink-wrapped DCC sound decoder - over the rear truck is the speaker
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tomikawaTT chpthrls Just a quick question for anyone more familiar with RR ops than I. I noticed in most of the pics where locomotives or train cars are being carried or pulled in a train, there is a gondola between the lead loco and the rest of the train. Is it to provide better visibility for the engine crew, or crushability factor in case of an oops? Gerry S. It's for end-impact collision protection, the theory being that, if the tie-downs fail in a front-end collision, the heavy lading (which could also be logs, structural shapes or heavy machinery) will end up on the gondola rather than in the cab of the trailing locomotive. As for overhead clearance being a problem when locomotives are loaded on flat cars, when the Strasburg took delivery of their 4-8-0 it had to wait until the late-night hours when the catenary on the connecting line could be de-energized. The stack clearance was a nominal five inches - possible arc-over distance at 11,000 volts. Chuck (Modeling Central Japan in September, 1964 - partially under virtual catenary)
It's for end-impact collision protection, the theory being that, if the tie-downs fail in a front-end collision, the heavy lading (which could also be logs, structural shapes or heavy machinery) will end up on the gondola rather than in the cab of the trailing locomotive.
As for overhead clearance being a problem when locomotives are loaded on flat cars, when the Strasburg took delivery of their 4-8-0 it had to wait until the late-night hours when the catenary on the connecting line could be de-energized. The stack clearance was a nominal five inches - possible arc-over distance at 11,000 volts.
Chuck (Modeling Central Japan in September, 1964 - partially under virtual catenary)
I was thinking Idlers for overhang, I'm surprised there's not one behind the locos.
I've been considering 85' athearn flats with a central pair of trucks, or two, for coaches etc.
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I'm just glad to see that we're exporting something for a change - other than the pieces of another one of our dismantled factories!
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Another variation. I have heard in the 1st half of 20th century of a run called the PROSPERITY SPECIAL. New locomotives would be delivered via a train made up entirely of 25 brand new locomotives and a caboose.
Heartland Division CB&Q The foreign destination may have a non-standard track guage.
The foreign destination may have a non-standard track guage.
That is correct! If my memory serves me correctly these units are heading for a southern country like Brazil where the track is narrower then ours. I've seen photos where engines heading for the middle east like Egypt are simply pulled behind just like in this shot:
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=265855&nseq=1696
Here are some other ideas:
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=253251&nseq=369
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=262988&nseq=708
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=247280&nseq=1133
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Now I have a "Reason" to purchase the Walthers flat, and to make use of the grab bag shells!
Some one is going to get a substandard job review! I have a wrecked F-7 on a flat car. Never though to transport new engines that way.
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I'm thinking of a couple of reasons for separating the trucks. First, it reduces the weight on the individual cars, and second it reduces the overall height of the locomotive load. Putting a locomotive on top of a flat car would likely exceed NMRA standards, at least.
Since the caption talked about "export," they might also be heading for a boat ride before they get home. So, they'll have to be loaded by crane.
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I like the idea. You can also find photos of wrecked locomotives loaded on flat cars.
OR.......here is a loco accidently loaded on a flat car. Circus style? (hopefully no injuries to crew)
The primary reason for moving these units like this is that they are not standard gauge - they are 1.6m gauge - 5' 3"
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SteamFreak That's a great idea for the shells that came with my BLI grab bag.
That's a great idea for the shells that came with my BLI grab bag.
That looks to be an excellent idea!
I have a few extra N scale bodies/frames that I've been looking at, doing the chin stroking HMMMN and now I know what to do with them----Now, if only I knew how they blocked/chocked that type of load---
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Very cool picture. I wonder if this was for tax purposes? Maybe final assembly or delivery had to be in the state or country of the railroad's headquarters or operations. I know some railroads took delivery of new locos in certain states for tax reasons in years past.
Ricky
dgwinup Neat picture! Looks like they lost the locomotive on the left flatcar. Only the truck is left! LOL Darrell, quiet...for now
Neat picture!
Looks like they lost the locomotive on the left flatcar. Only the truck is left! LOL
Darrell, quiet...for now
I'm the one who's ROFLMAO!
Note the total absence of trucks under the carbodies. I'd be willing to wager that there are more truck-laden flatcars out of frame to the left.
Definitely a different load, but the idea isn't unfamiliar to me. Buried among my 'surprise package' waybills are three, two of which reference 762mm gauge rolling stock to be delivered to my narrow gauge connection. The other is for a battery motor to be delivered to my larger coal mine.
Chuck (Modeling Central Japan in September, 1964)
Nelson
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Guys,
We talk about modeling a military train or a farm equipment train but has anyone thought of modeling this:
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=293982&nseq=1
I for one think it would be kind of cool but I don't really want to spend the money on shells like that, would you?