MisterBeasleyTheir comments about needing to make big engines to maximize profits were interesting, but are they correct?
MMMM---if it is true then I'd love to see what they could do with one of those Quadruplex/Quintuplex things I asked about
---Actually, I'd like to see just how they figure their costing out ---
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Apparently the prototype at the Hartford booth was a clever decoy. BLI is now saying that like their next project, the Jawn Henry, the Centipede will be built out of Lego and able to negotiate curves as small as 15", making it popular with everyone from toddlers to backwoods logging modelers alike: Lego JAWN HENRY
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Their comments about needing to make big engines to maximize profits were interesting, but are they correct?
Take a look at the Proto 0-6-0 and 0-8-0 models. From reading here, these are extremely popular models, and not exactly bargain-basement items. They've sold out the entire production run, too. From that, I would say that there is indeed a market for high-quality small steam.
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cudaken Un like most people here, I like big engines. I was hoping for a Yellow Stone my self. Cuda Ken
Un like most people here, I like big engines. I was hoping for a Yellow Stone my self.
Cuda Ken
... I like big engines as well and don´t mind BLI or MTH turning out those monsters that we will not be able to run on our layouts, but only if the main stream manufacturers like Bachmann, Atlas, Athearn, Walthers Proto do their homework and provide us with the workhorses we need...
When I grow up and get real rich, I will have a nice collection of all UP and PRR monsters ...
I was hoping there Huge Announcement was they got there people in charge of QC glasses!
Or they now know how to fix shorting problems on Y6-b's. (I found the fix and e-mailed them how to do it)
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i already have asked them to do a paragon 2 run of the PRR T1's, and have been told it's not on the list yet.
jondrd CMT announcement on BLI announcement: http://us.mc825.mail.yahoo.com/mc/welcome?.partner=sbc&.gx=1&.tm=1247472754&.rand=co5v4hvm91gev#_pg=showMessage&sMid=22&&filterBy=&midIndex=22&mid=1_36969_AL5Wv9EAAKX%2FSldhLwS9NBXerW0&m=1_20144_ALxWv9EAAEJkSlejCQjibl4h6n4,1_20810_AMFWv9EAACnGSlefhAfCpxbET%2Bw,1_21531_ALxWv9EAAW92SledNgAnL29sp58,1_26005_AMFWv9EAAKbMSleRCAtMd0YLfxw,1_36201_AL1Wv9EAAKuwSldhjAUTN0YYk8o,1_36969_AL5Wv9EAAKX%2FSldhLwS9NBXerW0,1_38558_AMBWv9EAAGNlSldaVg6gOy3DoT8,1_39341_AMNWv9EAAAg2SldWMgP87XuUaXg,&sort=date&order=down&startMid=0&pSize=25&hash=2a1b0fa5274c0f114027b53feba70c2c&.jsrand=889804 Jon
CMT announcement on BLI announcement:
http://us.mc825.mail.yahoo.com/mc/welcome?.partner=sbc&.gx=1&.tm=1247472754&.rand=co5v4hvm91gev#_pg=showMessage&sMid=22&&filterBy=&midIndex=22&mid=1_36969_AL5Wv9EAAKX%2FSldhLwS9NBXerW0&m=1_20144_ALxWv9EAAEJkSlejCQjibl4h6n4,1_20810_AMFWv9EAACnGSlefhAfCpxbET%2Bw,1_21531_ALxWv9EAAW92SledNgAnL29sp58,1_26005_AMFWv9EAAKbMSleRCAtMd0YLfxw,1_36201_AL1Wv9EAAKuwSldhjAUTN0YYk8o,1_36969_AL5Wv9EAAKX%2FSldhLwS9NBXerW0,1_38558_AMBWv9EAAGNlSldaVg6gOy3DoT8,1_39341_AMNWv9EAAAg2SldWMgP87XuUaXg,&sort=date&order=down&startMid=0&pSize=25&hash=2a1b0fa5274c0f114027b53feba70c2c&.jsrand=889804
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I can´t see that. Sorry.
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steemtraynandrechapelon blownout cylinder The question is now, how many people will buy something like that though? Well, the most obvious answer is Slobbering Pennsy Freaks. K4, I1, M1, J1, GG1, Q2, and now this....Apparently, they know who their customers are.
andrechapelon blownout cylinder The question is now, how many people will buy something like that though? Well, the most obvious answer is Slobbering Pennsy Freaks.
blownout cylinder The question is now, how many people will buy something like that though?
The question is now, how many people will buy something like that though?
Well, the most obvious answer is Slobbering Pennsy Freaks.
K4, I1, M1, J1, GG1, Q2, and now this....Apparently, they know who their customers are.
I'll be buying some. I've been wishing I could afford some Centipedes. And PRR ran them in my neck of the woods (Altoona / Horseshoe curve). Even though I'm running the South Penn, its just a short run south of Altoona and similar terrain. Will be a perfect loco set for my layout.
Please be a 4-6-0 and or 2-8-0 CAMELBACK OH PLEASE, OH PLEASE, OH PLEASE.
I know, I know, but I can dream can't I.
twhite Why am I looking at this and getting the feeling that it should have pantographs and be painted in Great Northern Orange and Omaha Green?
Why am I looking at this and getting the feeling that it should have pantographs and be painted in Great Northern Orange and Omaha Green?
EL-2 mutants? HMMMN
TWhite: Wouldn't Quadruplexes and Quintuplexes be fascinating looking as well? I'm guessing the only issue with them would be the turns----at about, oh----120" radii
Baldwin made electric locomotives so the concept carries over...
Consider the Virginian EL2's and the UP turbines, made by GE.
MisterBeasley The did have a Centipede at the BLI booth in Hartford. Too bad they didn't have a layout to run it on. But, they let me take a picture: I spoke with one of the BLI guys. He said he actually got one of these to run around 18-inch curves. He showed me how far out the pilot trucks would swing. Yeah, it would look silly, but it's nice to know that if you've got some tight staging curves, you could still run one of these.
The did have a Centipede at the BLI booth in Hartford. Too bad they didn't have a layout to run it on. But, they let me take a picture:
I spoke with one of the BLI guys. He said he actually got one of these to run around 18-inch curves. He showed me how far out the pilot trucks would swing. Yeah, it would look silly, but it's nice to know that if you've got some tight staging curves, you could still run one of these.
Tom
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I saw it up at Hartford today, and it is indeed a Centipede. BLI is also releasing a sort of 1928 Ford sedan on flanged wheels, which does operate. And some modern hi-rail trucks, too. They are HO and TINY. I did NOT see any other new locos on display, and they DID have a largish circular display track that the Centipede COULD have run on, but I am guessing the prototype model doesn't run. I don't care if it runs or not, so I didn't ask.
I did ask why they only made BIG locos, and they said they wanted to maximize profits (reminds me of GM building SUV's), because the sound and control electronics were so much of the cost. So, a bigger engine was more profitable, as they feared a smaller engine could not command a higher price. Sounds like a marketing guess to me, possibly a wrong guess. Who knows? Marketing strategy may not be their strength. I for one would consider a PRR E6s Atlantic, or a host of other medium-small engines. And, my layout has 36" curves. As it stands, I haven't bought ANY of their engines, although I could afford them. Last loco I purchased was a brass LIRR/PRR G5s 4-6-0, well within the typical BLI price range, and without sound or DCC.
Let us talk about unique then-----if we're going to see the collector take the market then let us go reallyHUGE!!!!!!!!
How about the Baldwin 2-8-8-8-8-2 Quadruplex??
Even one of those Quintuplexes might be fun!
Would need 140" radius turns but what the hey---we could even get MTH to articulate the boilers as well and then have it go through 18" curves then!!!
They want novelty-----here it is
I can see the pilot trucks would be able to swing rather far out---and there will be the toy-like side overhang issue with this one------FOOBIE FOOBIE!!!
ACH!! What else is new-----
I'm still waitin' on an N scale GMD1 with the A1A trucks----I'd buy 6 of 'em!!!
I didn't notice one, but that doesn't mean it wasn't there. I'm not in the market for engines right now, but I knew this Centipede was a topic of interest. BLI had quite a few engines out on display, but the Centipede had its own table, while the others were all grouped together.
While at the BLI boot did you happen to notice anything we don't know about? I'm asking because on some other Forum someone posted that they had a new NYC Steam Loco at their booth...? True or not?
rrinker Meanwhiel check Bachmann's announcement. Yes they have done lots of small steam, but their latest is..ta-da, another articulated steamer.
Yes it is an articulated steamer, but it is a smaller, layout friendly articulated that they already had driveline tooling for. A smart move in this current economy. As everyone should know, I am on the "we need more smaller/medium steam" support team, but Bachmann's choices still make more sense than those of BLI/PCM & MTH.
Sheldon
Sir Madog maybe like "BLI and MTH are teaming up resources to provide the serious model railroader with excellent locos he has been looking for for so many years now"
That would be as big a failure as the PRR -NYC merger. They are determined to put each other out of business, not work together.
The last time we really saw two manufacturers work together was Athearn and MDC in the old days. So much so that it made perfect sense for them to be joined together even after the orginal owners where long gone.
duckdogger Wondering if they will do an Amtrak version???? Bachman surely would, I'll bet.
Wondering if they will do an Amtrak version???? Bachman surely would, I'll bet.
Joke all you want, Bachmann still wins here on the ATLANTIC CENTRAL.
current score:
Bachmann 24, BLI/PCM 9
Bachmann is now poised for a three point score, BLI/PCM is looking at zip.
I must say, that I am really disappointed by this "Huge Announcement"!
I expected something meaningful, maybe like "BLI and MTH are teaming up resources to provide the serious model railroader with excellent locos he has been looking for for so many years now", but what do I see? Just an ordinary announcement for a loco, that hardly anybody would like to see on his/her layout. It is one of those useless things over which we had many a discussion in this forum - be it from BLI or MTH.
Shame on you BLI!
duckdogger BLI is definatley redefining the term niche marketing. What next? A1A Baldwin Sharks?
BLI is definatley redefining the term niche marketing. What next? A1A Baldwin Sharks?
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WHile it's an oddball, and I won;t be buyign any because I don;t model the PRR, SAL or NdeM, it is somethign that has not been done before, for a change. When has ANYONE done a Baldwin anything besides the Model Power Sharknoses that wasn't a switcher?
Meanwhiel check Bachmann's announcement. Yes they have done lots of small steam, but their latest is..ta-da, another articulated steamer.
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andrechapelon Well, the most obvious answer is Slobbering Pennsy Freaks. Followed by Psychotic Seaboard Groupies And ending with Nattering Nabobs of Nacionales de Mexico Negativism. Andre
Followed by Psychotic Seaboard Groupies
And ending with Nattering Nabobs of Nacionales de Mexico Negativism.
Andre
Geeeeeeeeez, Mike, me, a Psychotic Seaboard Groupie?
How dare you divulge such medically sesitive information to the larger Model RR community.And here's me thinking that a centipede in SAL freight colors would make a fine gift of appreciation to my Psychiatrist ( I have a brass centipede myself already) who has labored away under intense pressue to effect some kind of behavioral modification strategies to help ease my psychosis and my unabashed tendency to form small random groups of crazy folks and perform ritual extravagances such as fomation trailer hitch polishing.
Nearly cured if the drugs keep working.
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Thommotstage I'm still hopin' for the 20th Century Limited passenger cars... Tom Walthers version doesn't do it for you? :)
tstage I'm still hopin' for the 20th Century Limited passenger cars... Tom
I'm still hopin' for the 20th Century Limited passenger cars...
Walthers version doesn't do it for you? :)
Oops! Sorry, forgot to stipulate. I'm still hopin' for the '38 or '40 20th Century Limited passenger cars [from BLI]. The Walthers version is the '48 20th Century Limited; too late for my era - early 40s.
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