Expensive Locomotives in Incorrect Colours -Misapprehension Corrected

[M636C]

Since I posted this, I realised that I had seen a corrupted version of the announcement, and that the main concern that I had was unfounded!

Locomotives in incorrect colours are still, fortunately, confined to the cheaper and medium areas of the market!

I'll leave the basic part of my (incorrect) statement below in explanation of my posting!

I saw the announcement that Broadway Limited were releasing new EMD E-7 locomotives, in various road names. I checked the list, an sure enough, at the top in alphbetical order was "Atchison Topeka and Santa Fe". I'm a bit of an ATSF fan, and I'm sorry we won't see new locomotives in the Red and Silver "Warbonnet" scheme.

But as far as I can tell, ATSF never had an E-7, and none were ever painted n that scheme by anyone else. We are used to Bachmann producing cheap locomotives in incorrect colour schemes, but paying $400 for a pair of units in an imaginary scheme seems a bit much.

Sorry about the confusion on my part!

Peter

[Anonymous]

Peter,
I just checked BLI's website to double check what they are offering and I don't see anywhere on the site that they say they are offering a E7 in AT&SF colors.

They make mention of the E's pulling streamliners, with the quote being "Most of the premier passenger trains including the AT&SF “Super Chief”, various CB&Q “Zephyrs”, Great Northern’s “Empire Builder”, New York Central’s “Twentieth Century” and Pennsylvania Railroad’s “Broadway Limited” were pulled by EMD “E” unit diesel locomotives..."

Maybe you mistook the E's for the F7's they just anounced??

[Anonymous]

Ahh Peter! I think you were looking at BLI's E3/E6 page...they are offering an AT&SF E3/E6...

[M636C]

I stand, or sit corrected! My apologies!

I must have seen a corrupted version of their F-7 message at some time!

I know that cheaper E-7s have been offered in the past in ATSF colours.

The principle is still correct, of course, and while my concern in this case is unfounded, I am still concerned about, say, Rivarossi's NYC Hudson sold until recently as the Santa Fe "Blue Goose", with even the original coal tender (being a fairly unlikely fitting).
Mantua, again in the medium price bracket did this with their steam locomotives, some of which had no prototype at all, and could not be said to be correct in any colours.

It is likely that there are many hobby shop staffers who don't have the knowledge of as wide a range of prototypes as they sell.

I purchased the Athearn GP-60 in EMD demonstrator colours, knowing that the cab profile (being a standard unit) was incorrect, but there was nothing in the kit to say so.

The Proto 1000 ATSF freight F-3s are incorrect in that the small number of F-3 sets purchased by ATSF had stainless steel grilles not on the model. There were some later F7s that lacked these grilles, but had different fans, so I haven't yet convinced myself to buy these models, even at a reasonable price.

Again, none of these are things that you might take out a loan to purchase and I am relieved that I was incorrect in this case.

Peter

[Anonymous]

I understand perfectly, I don't count rivets in my model railroad world, however, if I know something is wrong with a product, thats when its unacceptable to me.

I hope that I did not come across to bluntly...

[Anonymous]

BLI offers some locos in wrong colors or numbers. [:D]

The two UP E7 A-B-B City of.... sets were announced as LA-7 to LA-9 and SF-7 to SF-9 but the UP changed the numbersystem early in the month when the delivery starts. That E7 had only numbers in the 900 series. Now the sets come correct!!!

AC6000CW - Southern Pacific ??????? Planed but order was never placed or canceled - No UP AC6000 comes from a former SP order.

[M636C]

Ulrich,

Those errors are not as bad as I was imagining.

I have a P2000 E-6 LA A-B set (I couldn't justify an A-B-B set without a few more cars for it to haul!) I'm not really in the market for anything as costly as a BLI set.

Peter

[ndbprr]

Well for a company that is spposued to exude the PRR BLI didn't get anything right on the E7. the green is wrong, the lettering colors are wrong, there are no additonal air inlets in the sides that the PRR added immediately, it has two horns and the PRR had one. Oh by the way line up and pay an exorbitant amount for a BLI engine because you have to have it. Some day I hope we get discerning enough to turn up our noses and not play the game the manufacturers way of limited runs and paying before seeing the product. It is the only way they will get it right.

[Anonymous]

BLI´s next joke is the announced F7

AT&SF F7 warbonnet red/silver L-A-B-C. Good? No!

I think each modeler buyed the also not so cheap Genesis set in the same consist, a little work, coupler area (brakepipes and so) and you have a great model. Okay w/o sound but powerful. Including the coming Walthers version - Genesis produced three versions.

The first Genesis set was the #37 set. And the coming BLI is ???

EXACT: #37!!!!!!!

I like BLI engines, but this is stupid!!!

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by ndbprr

Well for a company that is spposued to exude the PRR BLI didn't get anything right on the E7. the green is wrong, the lettering colors are wrong, there are no additonal air inlets in the sides that the PRR added immediately, it has two horns and the PRR had one. Oh by the way line up and pay an exorbitant amount for a BLI engine because you have to have it. Some day I hope we get discerning enough to turn up our noses and not play the game the manufacturers way of limited runs and paying before seeing the product. It is the only way they will get it right.

I got my Lionel UP Veranda last week, #73. Looks good but Lionel use one casting for both versions 61 and 73. The 73 was equipped in 1955 or 56 with a bigger, higher airintake on roof . And the model is as delivered with the flat one.

[Anonymous]

My gripe is with a Proto 2000 SD 50 in the new "dark future" CSX scheme. What should be dark blue and gold is MUCH too black. Nice engine, but it doesn't look like the ones going down the rails near here.