SteamFreak Nice job, Terry. I noticed the back of the coal load was angled when I slipped a blade in the gap, but you could easily putty in that cut you made. It woudn't be too hard to make a real coal bunker at this point.
Nice job, Terry. I noticed the back of the coal load was angled when I slipped a blade in the gap, but you could easily putty in that cut you made.
It woudn't be too hard to make a real coal bunker at this point.
Yeah Nelson i plan to add some coal as the plastic looks so fake
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bogp40 Now that you did finally get into this tender, I feel that the molded coal load should be modified. Manufacturers tend to mold the loads to the overflow point. If you cut out the coal and fabricate a new removable floor, you will have future access to the sound electronics as well as building a more prototypical looking load. I guess the only concern would be keeping the integedy of the side slides for fit. Styrene side rails can be added for the load support.
Now that you did finally get into this tender, I feel that the molded coal load should be modified. Manufacturers tend to mold the loads to the overflow point. If you cut out the coal and fabricate a new removable floor, you will have future access to the sound electronics as well as building a more prototypical looking load. I guess the only concern would be keeping the integedy of the side slides for fit. Styrene side rails can be added for the load support.
Yes your right
I figure i'll end up drilling some holes in the coal load any way
Now that i have the tender open i can start the remotor job then the DCC decoder
If you want to follow along the thread is in the DCC section
http://cs.trains.com/trccs/forums/t/150663.aspx
Nelson
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chessiecat Terry I was in the process of converting a Rivarossi B&O Mallet to DCC with a Tsunami Sound Decoder and decided I would be better off using a large Bachman Vanderbilt tender that they sell individually. It is already set up for DCC and would be easier to work with than the Rivarossi tender. Hope this will be some help! Snip Jim
Terry
I was in the process of converting a Rivarossi B&O Mallet to DCC with a Tsunami Sound Decoder and decided I would be better off using a large Bachman Vanderbilt tender that they sell individually. It is already set up for DCC and would be easier to work with than the Rivarossi tender. Hope this will be some help!
Snip
Jim
Yes Jim in fact I had thought of that because i have a Bachman C&O Mountian with a Vandy Tender that already has sound and i thought of using that tender for both locos but i'd have to figure out the wiring harness and that scared me off the idea
Looks good terry. I might just have the guts to dig into my berk tender now for a dcc conversion and remotor. Keep us posted with the progress you make
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SteamFreak Snip . Where else was it glued besides the ladders? Mine feels pretty solidly attached. Having the back open had to make it easier to spot where it was bonded. Snip
. Where else was it glued besides the ladders? Mine feels pretty solidly attached. Having the back open had to make it easier to spot where it was bonded.
The coal load had just enough glue to tack it along the edges but the right sidewall had alot of glue and took lots of cuts to break free
the left side had no glue at all
That's weird... are they restricting photos now? I haven't been around much, so I guess this is a new wrinkle.
Congrats on getting it off in one piece, Terry. Where else was it glued besides the ladders? Mine feels pretty solidly attached. Having the back open had to make it easier to spot where it was bonded.
I'm waiting on those photos. It looks like there's plenty of room for a decoder, and some extra weight.
Yes you are absolutely correct Nelson
I spent 2 hours with an xacto knife this afternoon and finally got
it open
I took photos but when i tried to post the here i got a hold for moderator approval message
This seems to happen every time i try to post more than 3 photos
So as soon as i get moderator approval you will get to see the photos
Looking at mine under magnification, it looks like the coal load, front wall, and front ladders are all part of the same casting. If you remove the front handrails and gently pry the ladders away from where they are glued to the frame, you might be able to work it loose. Be careful -- those ladders are very fragile, and we don't know where the glue points are inside, or how much was used during assembly.
Terry I just opened up the berk today to oil and lube it and see about a remotor project. There is a ton of room in the boiler for just a decoder, possibly a micro sound unit as well. I am not really thinking sound at this point and to be honest I am thinking of selling the berk for something like a 4-6-0 or a 2-8-0. The tender looks pretty solid but I did not mess with it today as I ran out of time before my wife got home.
Thanks again for the link to the boiler front.
Mike
Ok It took 2 hours of cutting with an xacto knife
Very slowly but i did manage to get the front of the tender off
I started by running the knife between the sides and the coal load
then cut down the front along the sides
The right side had lots of glue
Then I used the point of the knife to free the tabs onthe bottom
I made the mistake of cutting straight down and too deep at the back of the coal load
Which resulted in these cut marks on the under side of the coal bin
But they will be hard to see unless you turn the tender upside down
I should have cut on a shallow angle like the photo shows
Finally i cut the ladders from the deck {They have just a touch of glue on them
Then the coal load just slides out
rs2mike Terry I am not sure about the vandy tender, but the berkshire tender is all glued very solidly together. Looking at the hoseeker.com page for the berk they show it as a one piece item. I was going to do a dcc conversion on it as well but gave up. Good luck and let me know how you fare. Mike
Terry I am not sure about the vandy tender, but the berkshire tender is all glued very solidly together. Looking at the hoseeker.com page for the berk they show it as a one piece item. I was going to do a dcc conversion on it as well but gave up. Good luck and let me know how you fare.
I'm sure the Berk is doable and has alot more room
I may just pick up a berk tender on ebay to practice on
because I have a Riv Berk i want to do next
Tonys Trains has a drawing on page 11
that may help you after you get the tender apart
http://www.tonystrains.com/download/dec-installation-hout.pdf
dknelson If this is the same casting that Rivarossi/AHM used for their B&O 2-10-2 Big Six many years ago, then the parts diagram on HOSeeker indicates it is/was a one piece casting -- which of course does not explain how you were able to remove the back unless a prior owner had performed a bit of surgery. http://www.hoseeker.org/AHMRivarossiassembly/ahm2102s1pg2.jpg Dave Nelson
If this is the same casting that Rivarossi/AHM used for their B&O 2-10-2 Big Six many years ago, then the parts diagram on HOSeeker indicates it is/was a one piece casting -- which of course does not explain how you were able to remove the back unless a prior owner had performed a bit of surgery.
http://www.hoseeker.org/AHMRivarossiassembly/ahm2102s1pg2.jpg
Dave Nelson
No Dave I'm the orignal owner
These are not one piece castings because they have to put the combined electrical contact / weight bar down the center on the floor of the tender as you can see in the photo
But they are the same tender The S-1
you can see the 2 glue spots on either side on the bottom if you look closely
and i can see some seperation on the front but not all the way around
I was in the process of converting a Rivarossi B&O Mallet to DCC with a Tsunami Sound Decoder and decided I would be better off using a large Bachman Vanderbilt tender that they sell individually. It is already set up for DCC and would be easier to work with than the Rivarossi tender. That project got pushed on the back burner for a while so I can't advise how well it works but I thought maybe this would give you a alternative to the Rivarossi tender.
Hope this will be some help!
I'm attempting a DCC conversion and trying to get the tender apart
i got the back of the tender off
But can't figure out how to get the front off including the coal load cover
Does any one know how to do this ?
TIA