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P2K Locomotive wheelset replacement ??

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, April 8, 2005 5:33 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by AntonioFP45

QUOTE: Originally posted by locomotive3

Any idea what model year LL made the change over?
I have their older P2K E7's & PA's


Locomotive3,

Most of the E units I've seen have the nickel silver wheels. My E units are 1998 runs and are nickel silver.

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Posted by AntonioFP45 on Thursday, April 7, 2005 2:21 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by locomotive3

Any idea what model year LL made the change over?
I have their older P2K E7's & PA's


Locomotive3,

Most of the E units I've seen have the nickel silver wheels. My E units are 1998 runs and are nickel silver.

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Posted by rrinker on Wednesday, April 6, 2005 3:05 PM
What Willy said. Look at them up close, or even with a magnifier. It's pretty easy to tell the difference when you see them up close. A sintered wheel is made by pressing powdered metal in a mold, it never has the smooth even finish of a plated or turned piece of metal. Those little imperfection make it grip the rails better for more pulling power, but they collect the dirt like crazy.

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Posted by BentnoseWillie on Wednesday, April 6, 2005 1:59 PM
If the wheels are shiny and black or silver when clean, they're nickel-silver. If they're grey and not shiny when clean, they're sintered iron.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, April 6, 2005 1:40 PM
Any idea what model year LL made the change over?
I have their older P2K E7's & PA's
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Posted by gvdobler on Wednesday, April 6, 2005 1:30 PM

How can you tell which is which? Is there a visible difference? Does Life-Like has a referrence chart based on what loco you have?

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Posted by AntonioFP45 on Wednesday, April 6, 2005 1:09 PM
Rrinker,

Thanks for that info. I wasn't aware that some of the early P2K's had the Athearn styled sintered wheels. I'm glad that later units were equipped with nickel silver wheels.

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Posted by cacole on Wednesday, April 6, 2005 11:08 AM
Telephone LifeLike in Baltimore, explain what you have, and they will probably send you new nickel-silver replacement wheels for free.
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Posted by jsoderq on Wednesday, April 6, 2005 8:18 AM
Please read the other thread about plastic wheel sets about where the dirt comes from!
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Posted by rrinker on Wednesday, April 6, 2005 8:09 AM
The early P2K units uses sintered iron wheels like Athearn. Nickle-silver replacements will give better pickup, less dirst, and slightly less pulling power. Thankfully, they changed somewhere along the line.
NWSL is probably the best source. The P2K design is a clone of Athearn's, so they should fit. Or maybe they have P2K specific replacements, I haven't looked.

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Posted by AntonioFP45 on Wednesday, April 6, 2005 7:23 AM
I've repeatedly heard that NWSL wheels are the top recommended replacement wheels for the popular HO brands.

I have a P2K GP9 that I run often on my shelf track. Unlike my Athearn BB units, it accumulates very little grime.

The only wheel sets I'm changing out are on my Athearn Blue Box FP45s and U-Boats. The sintered wheels give excellent traction but suck up dirt like a magnet.

One thing to consider:

If your freight and/or passenger cars have plastic wheels, then that VERY LIKELY could be the reason for dirty or grimy locomotive wheels. Plastic wheels deposit black gunk on the rails whether brass or nickel silver. Even Atlas and Stewart locomotive wheels will eventually be coated with the stuff.

IMHO, metal wheels are the way to go for ALL freight and passenger cars in HO and N scales.

Just my [2c]

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 13, 2004 12:30 PM
Surprised you have that problem with P2K. May I suggest you clean your track and wheels with MAAS, a 2 oz metal silver cleaner paste or automotive polishing compound if you have some in the garage Otherwise go to
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 13, 2004 8:52 AM
You might find an answer to your question burried in this thread
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P2K Locomotive wheelset replacement ??
Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 13, 2004 8:39 AM
Does anyone know of a decent nickel-silver replacement wheelset for Proto 2000 GP7s ?

My stock wheelsets continue to accumulate dirt like magnets, whereas Atlas units seem more resilient, and maintain better contact.

Thanks,
Nick

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