Trains.com

Subscriber & Member Login

Login, or register today to interact in our online community, comment on articles, receive our newsletter, manage your account online and more!

Traffic & Road Signs

7618 views
19 replies
1 rating 2 rating 3 rating 4 rating 5 rating
  • Member since
    March 2002
  • From: Milwaukee WI (Fox Point)
  • 11,439 posts
Posted by dknelson on Monday, February 2, 2009 8:06 AM

fishplate

I to wondered about the date of black on yellow to white on red. I asked the county road Superintendent (He dug up some old reports) and he said the change began in 1954, actualy early 1955. Because the stop sign was not the only sign change, the swapping out didn't take place in a short time. The signs had to be budgeted in and the primary roads had the changes first. He said that it took a couple of years at least, to change all the signs.    

From time to time you still see one of the old yellow stop signs, not on a public street but in a private location such as a large industry that has its own parking lot.  I am pretty sure I have also seen one protecting an old alley's entrance onto a street within the last few years.  It may technically be a private alley. 

Dave Nelson

  • Member since
    October 2006
  • 74 posts
Posted by gjvjr50 on Monday, February 2, 2009 2:04 AM

 this is a quoit from the web site  http://www.trafficsign.us/railsign.html

" Use of these sign images by non-commercial entities is permitted, but is governed by my Standard Use Agreement. Use of any text, images, or other content of this website for commercial purposes, in any form, manner, or media whatsoever, is strictly prohibited except by prior written permission. Violations will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. All rights are reserved.  "

  • Member since
    October 2007
  • From: Tennessee
  • 665 posts
Posted by Kenfolk on Saturday, January 31, 2009 4:58 PM

These sign sheets are great.  I used something like this a couple of years ago or so for a sheet of signs that I needed, some photographed from local signs. I wasn't on the forum then, and so didn't thnk about sharing. I particularly am needing the speed limit signs, but will rescale them for n-scale.

By the way, in n-scale, I found some finishing nails I had in the shop that make great posts. I use a little dab of Liquid Nails to hold the head of the nail to the ground, and a dab to hold the sign to the nail which also dulls the tip of the nail sufficiently.

 

  • Member since
    December 2001
  • 3,139 posts
Posted by chutton01 on Saturday, January 31, 2009 2:38 PM

maxman
They look very similar to the signs shown on the following site, http://www.trafficsign.us/railsign.html, which has a copyright note as well as a statement that "unauthorized use of text and images is strictly prohibited" at the bottom of every webpage.

I don't think Tomkat has to worry about that - remember, these are standard traffic signs images from the MUTCD, the images are supposed to be standardized to begin with - you can add copyright verbage to your website all you want, doesn't necessarily mean a thing - now, the way he arranged the grouping, at first I thought they were the same as Blair Line's - (which arrangement could be in fact be copyrighted - that's the way court decisions in database/phonebook/dictionary cases have been going, you can't copyright the public domain information contained within the dictionary (which the MUTCD is), but you can copyright the presentation/display/layout etc of that information) - but the signs are not the same layout, which is cool.

What I used in the past for sign posts (surprized I didn't see it listed yet), is the smallest channels I could get from Plastruct or Evergreen (apparently nowadays .06", which is 5" in HO scale and a bit big - .040 would be better), cut to scale 8ft lengths, painted 'galvanized' (Testors Silver + Dullcote) or light green, paint the back of the road sign light grey (signs in NY are usually a greyish sheet metal), and attach the sign to the post over the channel opening.  I tried using a pounce wheel to make indentations representing the bolt holes up the back of the post, but it didn't seem to look better.

  • Member since
    December 2008
  • 53 posts
Posted by S Hawkins on Saturday, January 31, 2009 8:52 AM

I printed out the set last night and am busy installing some on our layout (pike).  Now are there any for business signs or interior signs or maybe window curtains?  (great work by the way)

Sadie Hawkins
  • Member since
    February 2008
  • 8,877 posts
Posted by maxman on Thursday, January 29, 2009 4:17 PM

Yes, these signs are very nice and the fact that you've made them available to us is a great gesture.

But I suppose I have to ask.  They look very similar to the signs shown on the following site, http://www.trafficsign.us/railsign.html, which has a copyright note as well as a statement that "unauthorized use of text and images is strictly prohibited" at the bottom of every webpage.

The signs are your own work and not copied from either that site or some other similar site, right?

Just asking.

  • Member since
    August 2004
  • From: Amish country Tenn.
  • 10,027 posts
Posted by loathar on Thursday, January 29, 2009 3:56 PM

Speed limit signs! YES! You rock!Bow

  • Member since
    January 2005
  • From: ARCH CITY
  • 1,769 posts
Posted by tomkat-13 on Thursday, January 29, 2009 3:46 PM

More info: height should be 5ft from ground to bottom of sign. If you use photo paper you can take a silver color sharpie & color the back side to look like metal.

As far as wood for post.....I'm sure I've seen this in the real world.

I model MKT & CB&Q in Missouri. A MUST SEE LINK: Great photographs from glassplate negatives of St Louis 1914-1917!!!! http://www.usgennet.org/usa/mo/county/stlouis/kempland/glassplate.htm Boeing Employee RR Club-St Louis http://www.berrc-stl.com/
  • Member since
    November 2004
  • From: Cape Girardeau, MO
  • 3,073 posts
Posted by JimRCGMO on Thursday, January 29, 2009 1:01 PM

Thanks, Tomcat! Great job, and one can never have too many signs...Yeah!!Thumbs Up

Jim in Cape Girardeau

  • Member since
    January 2009
  • From: Viroqua, Wisconsin
  • 125 posts
Posted by MadSinger on Thursday, January 29, 2009 12:50 PM

Thanks for sharing, they look good.

 I'll print some out just as soon as my new colored ink arrives from Dell.

I use a square toothpick as a signpost.  It works well, still a little thick, but works well enough for me.

MadSinger

"I don't like spam!" "I am not on a bloody wire, I am flyin!'" "I can't tell the difference between Wizzo butter and a dead crab." "You took an order for 18 million kilts from a blemonge, and believed it?!" "And in other news, during a Parlimentary debate, members accused the government of being silly, and doing not at all good things." (All from Monty Python)
  • Member since
    May 2004
  • 4,115 posts
Posted by tatans on Thursday, January 29, 2009 12:36 PM

Super signs, Try using long pins for posts, far better scale than wooden ties, never saw a stop sign on a 6 inch post. Long pins at a sewing store.

  • Member since
    March 2002
  • From: Nebraska Pan Handle
  • 94 posts
Posted by fishplate on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 10:59 PM

I to wondered about the date of black on yellow to white on red. I asked the county road Superintendent (He dug up some old reports) and he said the change began in 1954, actualy early 1955. Because the stop sign was not the only sign change, the swapping out didn't take place in a short time. The signs had to be budgeted in and the primary roads had the changes first. He said that it took a couple of years at the least, to change all the signs.    

  • Member since
    November 2008
  • From: Williamsville, ILL
  • 3,698 posts
Posted by TMarsh on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 10:47 PM

Thank you very much.You're too kind.Bow 

Todd

Todd  

Central Illinoyz

In order to keep my position as Master and Supreme Ruler of the House, I don't argue with my wife.

I'm a small town boy. A product of two people from even smaller towns. I don’t talk on topic….. I just talk. Laugh

  • Member since
    February 2004
  • From: Elyria, OH
  • 2,586 posts
Posted by BRVRR on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 9:40 PM

TomKat

Thanks again. A real treasure trove of signs. Some of them will surely appear on the BRVRR.

 

Remember its your railroad

Allan

  Track to the BRVRR Website:  http://www.brvrr.com/

  • Member since
    May 2003
  • From: US
  • 1,400 posts
Posted by fiatfan on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 3:56 PM

 Thank you, TomKat, not only for the signs but the tip about the narrow gauge ties.

 

Tom

Life is simple - eat, drink, play with trains!

Go Big Red!

PA&ERR "If you think you are doing something stupid, you're probably right!"

  • Member since
    January 2005
  • From: ARCH CITY
  • 1,769 posts
Posted by tomkat-13 on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 3:43 PM

G Paine

Thanks, this is a very nice collection of signs for a modern layout. Cool Just a point of information, before around 1960 stop signs were yellow with black letters.

I read today that 1954 was the year that red signs started to appear.....but I maybe wrong....not everything on the net is 100% true. If you find out for sure let us know......I just added some yellow stop signs.

I model MKT & CB&Q in Missouri. A MUST SEE LINK: Great photographs from glassplate negatives of St Louis 1914-1917!!!! http://www.usgennet.org/usa/mo/county/stlouis/kempland/glassplate.htm Boeing Employee RR Club-St Louis http://www.berrc-stl.com/
  • Member since
    July 2004
  • From: northern nj
  • 2,477 posts
Posted by lvanhen on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 2:35 PM

Tomkat, thanks again!!!!!Cool

Lou V H Photo by John
  • Member since
    July 2006
  • From: Pittsburgh, PA
  • 1,796 posts
Posted by JoeinPA on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 2:02 PM

 Tomkat:

Thanks for sharing the signs. I can put a few of them to work real soon.

Joe

  • Member since
    July 2006
  • From: Chamberlain, ME
  • 5,084 posts
Posted by G Paine on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 1:40 PM

Thanks, this is a very nice collection of signs for a modern layout. Cool Just a point of information, before around 1960 stop signs were yellow with black letters.

George In Midcoast Maine, 'bout halfway up the Rockland branch 

  • Member since
    January 2005
  • From: ARCH CITY
  • 1,769 posts
Traffic & Road Signs
Posted by tomkat-13 on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 1:22 PM

Was home today from all the snow, so I made up more road signs for my HO layout. I posted some before & have received many emails.....so here are all I have so far....feel free to copy....I printed mine on photo paper to give them that metal look.

#1

#2

#3

#4

I used pre-stained narrow gauge rr ties for post.

 

I model MKT & CB&Q in Missouri. A MUST SEE LINK: Great photographs from glassplate negatives of St Louis 1914-1917!!!! http://www.usgennet.org/usa/mo/county/stlouis/kempland/glassplate.htm Boeing Employee RR Club-St Louis http://www.berrc-stl.com/

Subscriber & Member Login

Login, or register today to interact in our online community, comment on articles, receive our newsletter, manage your account online and more!

Users Online

There are no community member online

Search the Community

ADVERTISEMENT
ADVERTISEMENT
ADVERTISEMENT
Model Railroader Newsletter See all
Sign up for our FREE e-newsletter and get model railroad news in your inbox!