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GP and NP cars and loco's

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GP and NP cars and loco's
Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, April 1, 2004 10:38 PM
What GP and NP locomotives and rolling stock would look accurate on my SP&S layout?

thanks for any help
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Posted by CBQ_Guy on Friday, April 2, 2004 12:19 AM
SP&S ones! (sorry)

I would say in general, anything from within the last 40 years of whatever date or era your layout is set in that you can find.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, April 2, 2004 6:03 AM
S.P.& S. was jointly owned by N.P. and G.N. and was merged into the Burlington Northern with the parent co.s and C.B. & Q. in 1970. I don't know if N.P. and G.N. passenger equipment would have been seen, as S.P.& S. had it's own passenger trains. I agree with CBQ_Guy's statement.
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Posted by jrbarney on Friday, April 2, 2004 10:57 AM
JCTrain,
Just did a Keyword search on the Index of Magazines using "SP&S" as the search term. The search engine found 86 articles. Reading some of those articles may help you decide on your selection of locomotives and rolling stock.
Bob
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, April 2, 2004 12:46 PM
Reading the articles? It looked like a index of back issue magazines
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Posted by jrbarney on Friday, April 2, 2004 7:11 PM
JCTrain,
You're correct of course, it is an index of back issues. However, you can get reprints of the Kalmbach publication articles from Customer Service at this site. And, even if you're not a member, you can get reprints of the other articles at the NMRA's Kalmbach Memorial Library. If you live in or near a large city, possibly the public library will have back issues of the more popular railroad magazines, or you might get lucky and find some at your LHS or used book and magazine store.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, April 2, 2004 9:30 PM
Sorry, got to disagree with CBQguy. The answer is: It depends on the era.

GN and NP passenger equipment, in addition to SP&S cars, were seen on trains no. 1 & 2, the Streamliner, which connected Portland-bound passengers from the GN and NP at Spokane. SP&S used its own equipment on local passenger trains.

During the '60s, it was common to see GN diesels combined with SP&S power heading from Vancouver, Wash., down the Oregon Trunk to Bieber, Calif., and connection with the WP. Otherwise, GN and NP diesels rarely if ever appeared anywhere on the SP&S prior to the merger.

GN and NP freight cars were found on the SP&S, but you were just as likely to find SP, ATSF, WP, and others, as the SP&S was primarily a bridge route.

If you're modeling steam, the SP&S used ex-GN and NP steamers relettered, in most cases, for SP&S, until the late 1930s when SP&S received its first batch of new steam locomotives in the form of three 4-8-4s and several 4-6-6-4s, all virtually identical to NP Class A-3s and Z-6s.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, April 7, 2004 6:58 PM
One more thing. I model semi-freelanced SP&S. And what diesels did they have in the 40's-late 50's?
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Posted by DSchmitt on Wednesday, April 7, 2004 11:57 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by JCtrain

One more thing. I model semi-freelanced SP&S. And what diesels did they have in the 40's-late 50's?


Alco-GE: 2-S1(1941), 9-S2 (1940), 6-RS1(1945), 5-RS2 (1949), 6-RS3 (1950),
16-FA1(1948), 10-FB1 (1948), 4- FA2 (1950), 4- FB2 (1950),
Baldwin: 5-VO1000 (1940),
EMD: 3- NW2 (1948), 3-SW9 (1951).3-F3A (1947).4-F7A (1953), 1- E7(1948),
6-GP9 (1956)

Manufacturer: Number on roster-type (earliest year built)

At least some of each type were still on the roster into1960's and beyond (many still on the roster at the time of the merger)

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, April 8, 2004 9:38 AM
Hey thanks DSchmitt
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Posted by CBQ_Guy on Tuesday, April 13, 2004 2:30 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by SPandS-fan

Sorry, got to disagree with CBQguy. The answer is: It depends on the era.



That's what I said...re-read my message s-l-o-w-l-y if it helps.
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