What diesels would you like to kit bash but the prototype does not exist?

[Anonymous]

A nuclear steam engine. Heres how it works:
A nuclear reactor heats H2o and makes steam to drive the wheels. I've got a drawing of one that looks vaguely like a veranda turbine.

[:D][:P]

[brothaslide]

QUOTE: Originally posted by 4884bigboy

DDA40X-FP45-GP60-SD75

With our without dynamic brakes?[8D]

[Anonymous]

DDA40X-FP45-GP60-SD75

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by sparkingbolt

I'll go out on a limb here, since the topic deals with diesels, but how about a diesel era steam engine? in the June 1982 Model Railroader was an article on the ACE 3000, a proposed new age steam engine. it looked like 2 wide bodied diesels back to back, but with steam-piston driven running gear on one of the units with nice big drivers, a boiler consealed within the hood body.

It was to be fully modern, with microprocessor fuel management and a great many improvements over the best of the last steamers. I think it had a 4-8-2 wheel arrangement. The "support unit" (tender) featured modular fuel containers that could be loaded on with fork lifts, and it would recycle the steam and condense it back into water for reuse in the boiler. And the whole locomotive featured lots of other cool features, both from a prototype and a modeling point of veiw.

The proposed "prototype" never made it to the rails, so was it really a prototype? It would still be a great subject to model, and fit right in to the modern diesel era with some freelancers license.

What does anyone else think about this? Dan

Here's a link to a drawing of the ACE 3000 and the Ultimate Steam Page web site.

http://www.trainweb.org/tusp/ace_det.html

[sparkingbolt]

Sticking more strictly to the topic as posted, I like 4 wheeled "critters" so any number of small diesels would be fun. I have already built a 25 tonner based on memories of a GE 25 tonner, only to find after I built it, it rather fits into this posted catagory. It uses body peices from a 44 tonner.

I also built a 20-23 ton box cab 4 wheel switcher to no specific prototype from peices taken out of an MDC box cab body, again with a Spectrum drive.

A small 8 wheeled box cab, shorter than MDC's, using Spectrum drives on a shorter wheelbase would be cool. These Ideas are at the other end of the spectrum from Brothaslides "behemoth" loco 'bashes, and other's "DD--" ideas, all of which carry just as much merit and potential prototype "what if" possability. (too big for my caboose chaser layout)

I think this is one of the more creative forum topics to come along in a good long while! OH it makes me want to go ahead and build a 44 tonner sized switcher out of that extra RS3 body I have in the diesel parts box. Chop-chop! Dan

[sparkingbolt]

I'll go out on a limb here, since the topic deals with diesels, but how about a diesel era steam engine? in the June 1982 Model Railroader was an article on the ACE 3000, a proposed new age steam engine. it looked like 2 wide bodied diesels back to back, but with steam-piston driven running gear on one of the units with nice big drivers, a boiler consealed within the hood body.

It was to be fully modern, with microprocessor fuel management and a great many improvements over the best of the last steamers. I think it had a 4-8-2 wheel arrangement. The "support unit" (tender) featured modular fuel containers that could be loaded on with fork lifts, and it would recycle the steam and condense it back into water for reuse in the boiler. And the whole locomotive featured lots of other cool features, both from a prototype and a modeling point of veiw.

The proposed "prototype" never made it to the rails, so was it really a prototype? It would still be a great subject to model, and fit right in to the modern diesel era with some freelancers license.

What does anyone else think about this? Dan

[Morpar]

My big nasty is the CC80-2. Take a pair of Athearn F45 shells and splice them together (but only one cab), custom built frame with 4 F45 trucks, and SD40-2 front and rear porches. Put the trucks on span bolsters a-la N&W "Jawn Henry", and stuff the biggest Sagami can motor that will fit in the body shell. The theory is this, my road had a group of 25 "Jawn Henry" style turbines. When they finally wore out, they were traded in to EMD. F45's were in production, and they were being bought in quantity. At the same time, the rotten , evil Union Pacific was boasting about having the most powerful diesel locos in the world, so we teamed up with EMD to make the biggest, baddest, best looking diesel yet. The span bolsters from the turbines were reused to help distribute the weight and reduce track wear. The frames were built up with 2-20 cylinder, 4000 hp. EMD diesel engines. To blend in with the rest of the new locos, and since they would be used for both passengwer work and the then new intermodal trains, the F45 styling was chosen for the body. Since the -2 line was being introduced at the same time, all the locomotive's systems were built to those specs. Oh, and I might add, it does look pretty good coupled to a Union Pacific SD90MAC!!

[Anonymous]

LOL FU-2 no i can't do that u have to build a hood from the parts i have

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by StillGrande

How about a solar powered steam train with a solar and back-up battery tender (or 2)

Just thinking of the next generation ACe locos.

With a cordless extension cord for yard work?[:D][:D][(-D][(-D][:-^]

Jeremy

[Anonymous]

A Proto2000 Electro Motive Corp BL-2 with a model rocket engine moulded in on the roof!
I don't know what it would be good for, but it'll be fast.
There is a photo on page 95 in the March 04 issue of M.R. of a New York Central RDC with two jet engines on top. Who on earth had the right stuff to pilot that thing.

[StillGrande]

How about a solar powered steam train with a solar and back-up battery tender (or 2)

Just thinking of the next generation ACe locos.

[Anonymous]

Glad to see so many mentions of my first thought, an SD-30. Though, perhaps with -2 long porches and a snoot nose, just to make it as ugly as possible...

How about this, an EMD BL-24? A stretched BL riding on six axle trucks, though kitbashing a longer body would be challenging with all the angles.

[Anonymous]

For reasons I don't know why, a F-10 or a E-10. I'd just like to see what carbody diesels would look like if they operated now. I'd have a pilot on the front of it like what was on the CMSt.P&P "Little Joes", and GP style doors on the side for easier engine access.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by emeraldisle

QUOTE: Originally posted by XG01X

QUOTE: Originally posted by CNWfan5525

I'm working on a rebuilt F7 it's not gonna be a CF7 i'm not sure what its gonna be

huh, what about a F7 cab with the CF7 long hood?

I accually saw a protype photo of an animal like this on the Mexican National Railway( What ever they call it). It was built in their shops, and was the result of two loco's that were involved in and accident. Odd looking thing but it worked.

Well, whatcha could do,is to mate the front of an F unit, with the rear of a U-boat, concoct some story about having Dash-2 electronics (DCC) , paint it in a gawd awful paint scheme for your clubs private road, and call it (forgive me) an FU-2.
oooops,,,,, I did it!! See http://users.adelphia.net/~wmry1407/FU2_resized.jpg for the beastie up close!

[Anonymous]

i was planning on makeing a DDAC90X

it would basically be a super long SD90MAC with 4-3 axel trucks and an extended fuel tank. it would be about 12000 HP.

i figure the 4 trucks would distribute the weight more evenly so that many railroads could use it.

as for something SP, i am currently working an an ABA set of SD90MAC-H's the A units will have the speed lettering and the B unit will have the old style lettering.

i have all the parts i need, except for the undecorated Kato 90MAC's. i need to save up a couple more pennies for those.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by XG01X

QUOTE: Originally posted by CNWfan5525

I'm working on a rebuilt F7 it's not gonna be a CF7 i'm not sure what its gonna be

huh, what about a F7 cab with the CF7 long hood?

I accually saw a protype photo of an animal like this on the Mexican National Railway( What ever they call it). It was built in their shops, and was the result of two loco's that were involved in and accident. Odd looking thing but it worked.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by XG01X

I'll admit I'd like to see a SD30

That would be cool.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by AntonioFP45

If I had the detailed info, I would take two HO Athearn PA1s and kitba***hem into a New Haven Railroad EP5a. [:D][8D]

As a teen, I met a gentleman in the Tampa Bay NRHS who did a beautiful job of one. I now regret that I didn't ask him for detailed info on how he did it. It would have been great if he would have submitted photos to MRR back then in 1981.

The tricky part of getting the basic "look" is that the Alco PA nose is too long and would have to be shortened slightly. [;)]

I built one several years ago, the better shell to use is the "Trainline FA-1", it has the correct windshield and nose length.

[M636C]

Jeremy,

There was a drawing of an SD30 in Railroad Model Craftsman quite a few years ago. It would be worth looking up for a kitbash. In the article it was pointed out that since the SD24 was already more powerful than the GP30, there was no need for an SD30.

By the way, it wasn't just the crazy GM stylists that resulted in the "hump" in the GP30. There was a very tall electrical cabinet that needed the hump, but this was changed for the GP35.

Peter

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by M636C

Jeremy,

The Wide nose GP50 with flared radiators sounds to me like the MK/MPI rebuilds operated by MARC in Maryland and Washington DC. Do you still want to build one if there is a prototype? These units haven't made it into any of the "spotter's guides", since they are rebuilds, but they've appeared in news photos in Trains. They have an F45 cab and SD45 radiators (to allow for cooling a HEP engine). The frame was lengthened to accommodate the HEP set.

Peter

Interesting. I still might though. It looks cool in my head. But so has alot of things.[:D][:D]. The SD30 sounds cool too.


Jeremy

[Anonymous]

A DD RS-1, an RS-1 with two 4-axle trucks [:)]

[M636C]

Jeremy,

The Wide nose GP50 with flared radiators sounds to me like the MK/MPI rebuilds operated by MARC in Maryland and Washington DC. Do you still want to build one if there is a prototype? These units haven't made it into any of the "spotter's guides", since they are rebuilds, but they've appeared in news photos in Trains. They have an F45 cab and SD45 radiators (to allow for cooling a HEP engine). The frame was lengthened to accommodate the HEP set.

Peter

[AggroJones]

BNSF GP90MAC

[XG01X]

QUOTE: Originally posted by CNWfan5525

I'm working on a rebuilt F7 it's not gonna be a CF7 i'm not sure what its gonna be

huh, what about a F7 cab with the CF7 long hood?

[GDRMCo]

The DD70ACMe. It has four 2 axle trucks mounted on a pair of span bolsters. It is also slightly longer and has tunnel ears. They have master and slave controls in them so that they can have mid train helpers and end of train helpers.

[Anonymous]

B40-9

[Anonymous]

I'm working on a rebuilt F7 it's not gonna be a CF7 i'm not sure what its gonna be

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by XG01X

I'll admit I'd like to see a SD30

Yeah, that's what popped into my head at first too.

---jps

[Anonymous]

A re-powered Baldwin "Shark" with EMD prime mover altering carbody from back of cab rearward. Think I'll do one just for heck of it.