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Posted by twhite on Monday, June 16, 2008 1:05 PM
 markpierce wrote:

 twhite wrote:

  Several light shots of the paint, allowing each coat to dry for at LEAST an hour, will get you a good, even coat.  It should also keep the paint from running under the masking, as the paint is almost dry when it hits the model anyway.  I'd let each color dry overnight before re-masking and spraying on the next color.  It usually takes me about three days to a week to paint a loco--and that's mainly BLACK, LOL!  So don't spray on another color until the paint has had a chance to really CURE to the model. 

If I'm going to paint a loco, I always make sure I've got at least several other projects to work on while I'm waiting for the paint to dry.  It's a long process, but if you take your time, you can do a good job even with a spray can. 

Tom Big Smile [:D] 

Gee, Tom, you are able to get away with only one day's drying time before taping for the next coat of paint? Confused [%-)] I normally wait a week for the paint to cure. Angel [angel]  Perhaps you put the model out all day at the patio in the oven-like summer air of the Great Valley Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Mark

Mark:

You found me out, LOL!  Actually, I do all my painting outside of the garage, and you're right--this dry, hot air here in the Valley does a pretty fast cure.  Did I say just ONE day?  Sorry, I thought I said two between color coats.  Actually, the ATSF silver I use for the striping and cylinder heads and roller-bearing covers is a water-base paint, so I can usually apply that within a day after the basic black.   But I do have to wait several days before I apply the graphite, which is hand-mixed from Floquil paints. 

I've tried using an air-brush--in fact I have a pretty terrific Paasche that's just sitting in a box in the garage.  For some strange reason, holding that little bitty gun between my fingers isn't nearly as comfortable--or accurate for me at least--as my hand wrapped around a spray-can.  To each his own, I guess.  Besides, those guns just don't seem to be designed for left-handers.  At least not THIS left-hander Blush [:I].

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Posted by markpierce on Monday, June 16, 2008 12:13 PM

 twhite wrote:

  Several light shots of the paint, allowing each coat to dry for at LEAST an hour, will get you a good, even coat.  It should also keep the paint from running under the masking, as the paint is almost dry when it hits the model anyway.  I'd let each color dry overnight before re-masking and spraying on the next color.  It usually takes me about three days to a week to paint a loco--and that's mainly BLACK, LOL!  So don't spray on another color until the paint has had a chance to really CURE to the model. 

If I'm going to paint a loco, I always make sure I've got at least several other projects to work on while I'm waiting for the paint to dry.  It's a long process, but if you take your time, you can do a good job even with a spray can. 

Tom Big Smile [:D] 

Gee, Tom, you are able to get away with only one day's drying time before taping for the next coat of paint? Confused [%-)] I normally wait a week for the paint to cure. Angel [angel]  Perhaps you put the model out all day at the patio in the oven-like summer air of the Great Valley Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

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Posted by Grampys Trains on Monday, June 16, 2008 11:31 AM
Hi Tom: That's some outstanding work on that loco. I too, have trouble with an air brush.  I have much better luck with a brush. You've got painting with a can down pat.  Again, great job!
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Posted by Flashwave on Monday, June 16, 2008 11:10 AM
 Rotorranch wrote:
 Flashwave wrote:

Well, your engines are also quite a bit longer than mine, but this one's been a few weeks, Will watch distance on future engines. Thanks! Is the sand color ends too much? Would it look better in just the boyd red up top?

Flash...that makes absolutely no sense. The length of a loco doesn't effect paint. Whistling [:-^]

I'd strip it and try it again, with a couple light coats. The first coat is the most important.

Remember, light coats, almost to the point of dry spray.

Rotor

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We might strip it, but those were light coats. I have painted cars before.

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Posted by Rotorranch on Monday, June 16, 2008 11:02 AM
 Flashwave wrote:

Well, your engines are also quite a bit longer than mine, but this one's been a few weeks, Will watch distance on future engines. Thanks! Is the sand color ends too much? Would it look better in just the boyd red up top?

Flash...that makes absolutely no sense. The length of a loco doesn't effect paint. Whistling [:-^]

I'd strip it and try it again, with a couple light coats. The first coat is the most important.

Remember, light coats, almost to the point of dry spray.

Rotor

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Posted by twhite on Monday, June 16, 2008 10:50 AM

Flashwave--

Me again.  Thought I'd post a couple of photos of a couple of locos I painted recently--yup, with a spray can.  I used Grimy Black for the basic coat, and sprayed it on lightly for about three coats, allowing each coat to dry for at least two hours before re-spraying.  Then when I was satisfied that I'd caught everything, I let it cure for about two days before hand-brushing on the graphite on the firebox and smokebox.  The cyinder heads and striping were done with ATSF 'Old Silver' (the Graphite is a mixture of Floquil graphite and bright silver).  Then after THAT had 'cured' again for a couple of days, I sprayed on Glosscote for the decaling, letting that set for a day.  Then gave the locos an overspray of Dullcote and re-assembled them.  Total for each loco--about a week.  But I kind of like the results.  If you take your time, you CAN do it with a spray can.   

 

Tom Big Smile [:D]

PS:  To answer the question about the ends of the loco, I kind of like it the way it is. 

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Posted by lvanhen on Monday, June 16, 2008 10:45 AM
There's no point if it has to be explained.
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Posted by Flashwave on Monday, June 16, 2008 10:30 AM
 lvanhen wrote:

 R. T. POTEET wrote:
 Flashwave wrote:
. . . . . . . . . . . Bad jokes aside, here's my first attempts at a Free Lance scheme . . . . . . . . . .
And I promise to never again advocate that someone paint-it-themselves!

AMEN!!Whistling [:-^]

Meaning what?

 twhite wrote:
 Flashwave wrote:

Bad jokes aside, here's my first attempts at a Free Lance scheme. Yes, I masked it, and yes I used spraycans. (Except I forgot to  color the detailing parts.) Actually, I had to hand paint touch up, because no matter how hard I burnished,the intermediate blue (Polar Express Blue) and the dark blue were bound and determined to screw each other up. Soon (I can dream) to be lettered #23 (BL 2 third purchased) is Half Moon's first of the cotton candy scheme, resulting from a contest. It will stand as a reminder of my first attempt, so future engines don't end up looking so bad.

Feedback is appreciated, preferably on the design of the scheme (IE how it would look if all or most had gone well), not on my already known novice masking skills, but I can do that in another thread if need be

Flashwave:

I like the scheme.  Here's a few hints from an old spray-can painter (I've never had good luck with an air-brush for some reason).  Don't get too close to the model when you spray it.  Several light shots of the paint, allowing each coat to dry for at LEAST an hour, will get you a good, even coat.  It should also keep the paint from running under the masking, as the paint is almost dry when it hits the model anyway.  I'd let each color dry overnight before re-masking and spraying on the next color.  It usually takes me about three days to a week to paint a loco--and that's mainly BLACK, LOL!  So don't spray on another color until the paint has had a chance to really CURE to the model. 

If I'm going to paint a loco, I always make sure I've got at least several other projects to work on while I'm waiting for the paint to dry.  It's a long process, but if you take your time, you can do a good job even with a spray can. 

But remember--just don't get TOO CLOSE.

But that's a neat color scheme.  Sure let's you know the train's coming!

Tom Big Smile [:D] 

Well, your engines are also quite a bit longer than mine, but this one's been a few weeks, Will watch distance on future engines. Thanks! Is the sand color ends too much? Would it look better in just the boyd red up top?

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Posted by O_Kamoto on Monday, June 16, 2008 10:10 AM

Here's from 6/14/08 running session.

 Wildwood.

 

K.O.

 

 

Wildwood. 

 

 

Whiteside Crossover. 

 

 

Wauhatchie.

 

 

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Posted by twhite on Monday, June 16, 2008 10:06 AM
 Flashwave wrote:

Bad jokes aside, here's my first attempts at a Free Lance scheme. Yes, I masked it, and yes I used spraycans. (Except I forgot to  color the detailing parts.) Actually, I had to hand paint touch up, because no matter how hard I burnished,the intermediate blue (Polar Express Blue) and the dark blue were bound and determined to screw each other up. Soon (I can dream) to be lettered #23 (BL 2 third purchased) is Half Moon's first of the cotton candy scheme, resulting from a contest. It will stand as a reminder of my first attempt, so future engines don't end up looking so bad.

Feedback is appreciated, preferably on the design of the scheme (IE how it would look if all or most had gone well), not on my already known novice masking skills, but I can do that in another thread if need be

Flashwave:

I like the scheme.  Here's a few hints from an old spray-can painter (I've never had good luck with an air-brush for some reason).  Don't get too close to the model when you spray it.  Several light shots of the paint, allowing each coat to dry for at LEAST an hour, will get you a good, even coat.  It should also keep the paint from running under the masking, as the paint is almost dry when it hits the model anyway.  I'd let each color dry overnight before re-masking and spraying on the next color.  It usually takes me about three days to a week to paint a loco--and that's mainly BLACK, LOL!  So don't spray on another color until the paint has had a chance to really CURE to the model. 

If I'm going to paint a loco, I always make sure I've got at least several other projects to work on while I'm waiting for the paint to dry.  It's a long process, but if you take your time, you can do a good job even with a spray can. 

But remember--just don't get TOO CLOSE.

But that's a neat color scheme.  Sure let's you know the train's coming!

Tom Big Smile [:D] 

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Posted by lvanhen on Monday, June 16, 2008 8:48 AM

 R. T. POTEET wrote:
 Flashwave wrote:
. . . . . . . . . . . Bad jokes aside, here's my first attempts at a Free Lance scheme . . . . . . . . . .
And I promise to never again advocate that someone paint-it-themselves!

AMEN!!Whistling [:-^]

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Monday, June 16, 2008 6:38 AM

 Flashwave wrote:
 MisterBeasley wrote:

Geez! 30 bucks a gallon? Ain't it time for a Hybrid?Big Smile [:D]

That old Ford is a hybrid, believe it or not.  Half the time it ran on gasoline, and the other half the time you had to get out and push it!  Laugh [(-D]

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Posted by wedudler on Monday, June 16, 2008 2:15 AM

This caboose was my latest work. Here's the caboose hop with two RS 27's.

 

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Posted by R. T. POTEET on Monday, June 16, 2008 1:27 AM
 Flashwave wrote:
. . . . . . . . . . . Bad jokes aside, here's my first attempts at a Free Lance scheme . . . . . . . . . .
And I promise to never again advocate that someone paint-it-themselves!

From the far, far reaches of the wild, wild west I am: rtpoteet

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Posted by markpierce on Monday, June 16, 2008 12:46 AM
 MisterBeasley wrote:

 Heartland Division CBandQ wrote:
That's a great service garage, Mr. B!!!

Thanks.  Any place where I can get gas for 29.9 and an ice-cold Dr Pepper is all right with me. 

Even back in the 1930's, when the pumps were different and folks drank Moxie, it was known as as an honest shop.

 

I think 18-cents-a-gallon gas, as posted at this station in Sheep Ranch, California (population 32) is a better deal as photographed on June 9, 2008

Mark

 

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Posted by twhite on Monday, June 16, 2008 12:24 AM

I'm probably late for WPF this week, but thought I'd post a late shot of my cattle train heading downgrade on Yuba Pass.  The lead cattle car is one of those BLI's with the stock noises--LOUD stock noises, LOL!  Between that and the 'grindy' little 2-6-6-0 hauling the train, it's one really NOISY bovine express. 

GREAT photos this week, all.  There's some terrific modeling going on from the forum membersBow [bow]

Tom Tongue [:P]

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Posted by Flashwave on Sunday, June 15, 2008 10:24 PM
 ngartshore350 wrote:

Hi All!

Just some progress shots of the station. Excuse the mess, work in progress. The man holes in the platform are actually over all the screws holding down the platform to allow it to be removed at a later date (if required). I will cover the manholes with checker-plate covers. Then soon the painting will begin! Hopefully!Confused [%-)]

*Snip*

Regards,

Nige.

Cool. Is there more to the platofrm roof though? it seems reel short for that long of a platform

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Posted by ngartshore350 on Sunday, June 15, 2008 10:21 PM

Hi All!

Just some progress shots of the station. Excuse the mess, work in progress. The man holes in the platform are actually over all the screws holding down the platform to allow it to be removed at a later date (if required). I will cover the manholes with checker-plate covers. Then soon the painting will begin! Hopefully!Confused [%-)]

Test run with a passenger train!

November 2007


Regards,

Nige.

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Posted by Flashwave on Sunday, June 15, 2008 10:09 PM

Bad jokes aside, here's my first attempts at a Free Lance scheme. Yes, I masked it, and yes I used spraycans. (Except I forgot to  color the detailing parts.) Actually, I had to hand paint touch up, because no matter how hard I burnished,the intermediate blue (Polar Express Blue) and the dark blue were bound and determined to screw each other up. Soon (I can dream) to be lettered #23 (BL 2 third purchased) is Half Moon's first of the cotton candy scheme, resulting from a contest. It will stand as a reminder of my first attempt, so future engines don't end up looking so bad.

Feedback is appreciated, preferably on the design of the scheme (IE how it would look if all or most had gone well), not on my already known novice masking skills, but I can do that in another thread if need be

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Posted by Flashwave on Sunday, June 15, 2008 9:02 PM
 MisterBeasley wrote:

 Heartland Division CBandQ wrote:
That's a great service garage, Mr. B!!!

Thanks.  Any place where I can get gas for 29.9 and an ice-cold Dr Pepper is all right with me. 

Even back in the 1930's, when the pumps were different and folks drank Moxie, it was known as as an honest shop.

 

Geez! 30 bucks a gallon? Ain't it time for a Hybrid?Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by Kenfolk on Sunday, June 15, 2008 8:57 PM

Lots of great photos this weekend. Thanks to all.

The insulation is going into the garage loft now, then drywall, then I can move the layout and start work on the extension. So no pictures from me this weekend, but will hopefully have some soon. 

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Sunday, June 15, 2008 5:41 PM

 Heartland Division CBandQ wrote:
That's a great service garage, Mr. B!!!

Thanks.  Any place where I can get gas for 29.9 and an ice-cold Dr Pepper is all right with me. 

Even back in the 1930's, when the pumps were different and folks drank Moxie, it was known as as an honest shop.

 

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Sunday, June 15, 2008 1:02 PM
That's a great service garage, Mr. B!!!

GARRY

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Posted by Flashwave on Sunday, June 15, 2008 12:51 PM
 MisterBeasley wrote:

Great shots, everyone.  I guess the approach of summer (in the Northern Hemisphere, anyway) hasn't slowed down people's enthusiasm.  I've been working on the Walthers Ice House kit.  The "big house" isn't fully assembled yet, but this is how the loading platform looks: 

Texaco was my choice for the gas station.  I like the colors, and the old "Fire Chief" logo.

The garage building itself is an old wood structure that showed up in a yard sale "box of trains" when I was a kid.  I added lighting and some interior details.  A lot of my gas station stuff is from JL Innovative, by the way.

 

Actually, from what I;ve heard, Summer actually picks up MRR wise. Consider: 100 degree weather outside being attacked by bugs vs. Air Conditioned (hopefully) MRR room?

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Posted by Packers#1 on Sunday, June 15, 2008 11:40 AM
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Some friggin fine work going on here. Good show! Especially mikelhh.

Absolutly Ditto. I think I'll scrap the 4x8 for a 2' 6" by 6'  shelf layout to be built in my current room.

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Posted by howmus on Sunday, June 15, 2008 11:34 AM
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Hello howmus!

I am looking at that nice gas station and noticed the industrial buildings at the left. Are they Walthers Cornerstone 3-in-1 buildings/ modulars?

Could you please show me a closer picture of that scene? I have three of those sets and need an inspiration on how to put them together...Big Smile [:D]

Olav in Norway 

My pleasure Sir!  Yes most of the buildings in the town were made from the Walthers Cornerstone Modulars.  They were built to fit the available space and create a (hopefully) believable scene.  The storefront buliding is also a Walthers kit.

 

Lots more photos of the area being created here: http://s66.photobucket.com/albums/h259/slow_rr/SLOW_RR/?start=144

and on the next page of the photobucket account. (page 11)

BTW, here is the town at night:

 

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We'll get there sooner or later! 

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Sunday, June 15, 2008 11:04 AM

Great shots, everyone.  I guess the approach of summer (in the Northern Hemisphere, anyway) hasn't slowed down people's enthusiasm.  I've been working on the Walthers Ice House kit.  The "big house" isn't fully assembled yet, but this is how the loading platform looks: 

Texaco was my choice for the gas station.  I like the colors, and the old "Fire Chief" logo.

The garage building itself is an old wood structure that showed up in a yard sale "box of trains" when I was a kid.  I added lighting and some interior details.  A lot of my gas station stuff is from JL Innovative, by the way.

 

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Posted by OlavM on Sunday, June 15, 2008 10:57 AM

Hello howmus!

I am looking at that nice gas station and noticed the industrial buildings at the left. Are they Walthers Cornerstone 3-in-1 buildings/ modulars?

Could you please show me a closer picture of that scene? I have three of those sets and need an inspiration on how to put them together...Big Smile [:D]

Olav in Norway 

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Posted by wm3798 on Sunday, June 15, 2008 10:57 AM
I had planned to work on the house yesterday, scraping paint and getting yet another of my 33 windows prepped for paint... Then the postman came...
Skip Barber had contacted me a couple of weeks ago about some surplus hoppers he had, and made me an offer that was hard to refuse. But I had no idea he was talking about 42 55 ton cars!! (Thanks Skip!)

Well, when that package arrived, any other plans I had went right out the window. I quickly surveyed the decal supply, and found I had enough steam era WM decals to do 5 hoppers in the old round herald. Out came the giant can of Oxide Red, and what had been Norfolk Southern quickly became fodder for the car shops at Elkins.

I used ancient and venerable Northeast Decal sets I've had in my possession for over 20 years. A little schpritz of decal finish and they were as good as new! One mistake I made was to apply the Dullcote out on the porch... it was pretty humid last night, and the paint hadn't fully cured. A couple of weathering washes will fix that white haze. Although, it did give me a good "fade coat" to start with.

Once completed I pulled out the handful of steam era rolling stock I have and staged a little "Photo Freight"... A little manipulation of the color balance, and it's the fabulous '50's again!

This is a little preview of our proposed "Steam Night"...
Have a great Father's Day everyone...

Lee

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