City Transit Buses

[Anonymous]

I saw on East Penn Trolley website there was a O scale model of Portland Tri-met
LRV :

The 1:50 buses to go with that are:


1972 Flxible New Look cut into 35 footer
GMC RTS 4's
Flxible Metros
Gillig Phantoms
and Newly built New Flyer Low Foor buses

[AntonioFP45]

As I mentioned a page or two back, I would really enjoy being able to make HO scale buses move about on a layout's streets.

I saw a min-train display at a Hallmark store in which the train ran in a circle. There was a magnet underneath the train that was attached to a motor/arm assembly that swung around in a circle. Sort of made me think that it would be neat to have something similar for model buses and trucks.

I still believe that the ideal situation (unfortunately expensive) is for a Faller type of system.

[CSSHEGEWISCH]

Here's a website that provides rosters and some photos of various city transit systems:

http://www.geocities.com/~buslist/

[Anonymous]

Look Everyone I got an idea, Now we all know that I have been talking about these buses that I have mentioned ,right? Well How about this that any company would be
glad to make them but they don't have to make the buses with different veriety of transit paint schemes. The buses will still be made but only untrimmed. You can make it yourself. all you need is the Transit paintscheme computer disc to pic which transit agency you want and It'll be assembled, How's that sound???

[Anonymous]

Here's something else bus Fans Minniapolis-St Paul model Lay Out

Corgi PCC Minniapolis-St Paul Trolley, w/ 1:50 scale models of


15 Metro 1983-2002 Gillig Phantoms and 9 1972-74 Flxible New Looks on the replica of a streetmall/ transitway of downtown Minniapolis..


Cool Huh?

[aartlib]

Busses with under-layout magnetic tracking that move about your minature cities as they do in reality!! Wouldn't that be a "kick in the head"? C'mon forumers, use your imagineering. Let's keep this thread alive until we see a "workable" idea.

Art Gordon

[Anonymous]

to davekelly:;


Hey Guess what, I dream about another Philly Transit Layouts only it's Layout of
Southeastern Pennsylvania Transportation Authority (SEPTA 1989)

let me tell ya, It's HUGE!!!!!!!!!! I mean HHUUGGEE!!!!

1:50 scale buses of


50 of 1980 GMC RTS II (T8W603) Series 8000-8264
40 of 1982-83 Neoplan AN440A AK ,BD series 8285-8584
40 of 1984-85 Neoplan AN440A BM,CD series 8601-8875
23 of 1984 Volvo B-10m Artic series 7001-7050
55 of 1986-87 Neoplan AN440A DK,EB series 3000-3251
55 of 1988-89 Neoplan AN440A EI-EZ series 3252-3491
8 AMG Trackless Trolleys series 810-909


4 Corgi SEPTA PCC Cars as 2100/2700 series
5 Imperial Hobbies' O scale SEPTA Kawasaki single ended LRV's as Subway- Surface Lines (10,11,13,34 and 36 )2 Kawasaki Double ended LRV's (101 and 102) and HO scale Bullet as the Norristown Line.

Ho scale Trains of the Market Frankford Line and Broad Street Line Subway Trains


Including the Silverliner II's,III's, and IV's as The Regional Rail Lines


There was a display replica of Frankford Terminal and Neoplan buses coming in and out including 2 AMG's

replica of Chestnut Street Transitways of some of the RTS's and little bit of the Neo's
and 69th Terminal W/ the RTS's and Neo's running in and out.

[Anonymous]

Here's an Idea of a model Transit Layout of Denver Colorado...

Denver RTD with Orion V (Bus Bank). along with 1:50 scale models of
1986-87 Neoplan AN440s, Gillig Phantoms,and Flxible Metros

[AntonioFP45]

TrolleyBoy,

For passengers in the new Fishbowls, it's an easy matter to remove the body and insert passengers, just as we do on Rivorossi and Walthers Budd cars.

I'm sure that eventually these buses will wind up on Ebay and discount web stores. I still remember all of the $100 price tags of P2K locomotives just a few years ago. Now you can get the new for the $20 to $80 range.

[trolleyboy]

Oh what the heck thought I'd pop in my [2c] To use a Siberianmoism. I have seen the new Bush bus at my LHS the price was large enough umfortunatly to "gag a healthy maggot" $ 32.50 CDN.[:O] Nice but no thanks I'll stick to my trolley's. The fishbowl does look really good my only complaint other than the price is that in their infinate wisdom the mfr glued the floor to the body so a prying you must go if you wi***o add passengers[sigh] Don't really want to do that to a $40 model. I'm sticking to a couple of Jordans 40'd ford transit's ( closer to the layout time frame )One of them will likley have a close encounter with mt MTS snow sweeper [swg] Big Boy keep lovin your trolley's Rob

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Neoplan_man

Hey everyone, You know that I had a thought the other day about New Jersey Transit
Now we all know the Corgi Has the NJT Newark PCC car, right?


But you know what buses can go with that model?


1:50 scale buses as NJ Transit is

1980 Flxible 870
3 bus banks of the MC-9s rebuilt as
1981 MC-9, 1982-84 MC-9A and 1987-88 MC-9B
1989 Flxible Metros
1994 Flxible Metro and Metro Suburban
1976 Flxible New Look (53096-8-1and 53102-8-1)Suburban
1968 GMC Fishbowl Suburban
1999-2000 Nova RTS 6
1999 MCI D4000
Corgi 1999 MCI DL-3

[Anonymous]

Hey everyone, You know that I had a thought the other day about New Jersey Transit
Now we all know the Corgi Has the NJT Newark PCC car, right?


But you know what buses can go with that model?


1:50 scale buses as NJ Transit is

1980 Flxible 870
2 bus banks of the MC-9s rebuilt as
1982-84 MC-9A and 1987-88 MC-9B
1989 Flxible Metros
1994 Flxible Metro and Metro Suburban
1976 Flxible New Look Suburban
1968 GMC Fishbowl Suburban
1999-2000 Nova RTS 6
1999 MCI D4000

[railroadyoshi]

Big Boy, whats the name of the new LRT Line? Its going from Downtown towards the Frdliey, Columbia Heights side, correct? Is it going to interchange with the Hiawatha Line.

I loved the Hiawatha line, so much fun!

[Anonymous]

I Think Corgi should make 1:50 scale Flxible New Looks
since the Old Looks are no longer in stock

[Anonymous]

another Dream Of Los Anegeles Califorina


There are a 3 Corgi Classics PCC cars as LAMTA,Pacific Electric and Fruit Salad
Coming out of the barn,

But There are New 1:50 scale buses of The Los Angeles County MTA.

56 1981 GMC RTS 4's from fleet 8200-9139
20 1980 Flxible 870's from fleet 7500-7729
23 1983-84 Neoplan AN440's from fleet 3300-3714

22 Flxible Metros fleets 2500-2649,2700-2764,2800-2870,2900-2932.
11 1987 Neoplan AN440 Suburban from Fleet 1100-1189
45 1988-89 TMC RTS 6 from fleet 2000-2266,2300-2402, and 1970-1999
(Methonal)
23 1992 TMC RTS 6 "Methonal" from fleet 1201-1401
57 1995-99 Neoplan AN440 (CNG) 4500-4695, 4696-4793,6301-6600, and 6700-
6799


Roaming around the replica streets of Downtown LA. a 1:50 scale MTA GMC RTS # 8298 on the corner Hollywood and Santa Monica Blvd along w/ another 1:50 model bus of the MCI Classic as the Santa Monica Municipal Bus Lines (Big Blue bus).

Sunset Blvd w/ the Fruit Salad PCC's along w/ the 2 1988 Flxible Metros # 2500 and 2632 and a CNG Neoplan (6740).

5th and Flower with 4 GMC RTS 4's (8567,8399,8448, and 8773) w/ the Montabello
bus Lines' TMC RTS 6.


Replica of Centry Blvd, with MTA 1984 Neoplan (3435) and a 1988 TMC RTS 6 (2164).



..

[Anonymous]

Hey Guess what transit bus Fans I've had 2 best dreams of all and no I'm not making this up

One of New York and one from Los Angeles.


1. From New York City

Well as we all know that Corgi Classics has 2 products of the GMC Fishbowls that is NYCTA right? well guess what I was seeing of the 1:50 scale buses layout in the
replica of New York City.

7 Corgi Classics NYCTA Fishbowls roming around the streets under the elevated
structure with an HO scale NYC R5 subway train

To top it off There was over 100 1:50 scale 1981-85 NYCTA GMC RTS 4's, 1986
GMC RTS 6's, 1987-94 TMC RTS 6's, and Nova RTS 6's. on every street on the
large layout. along with 22 1:50 scale Flxible 870's and 29 1:50 scale Flxible New Looks. 20 Orion V's


2 Corgi Classics GM Fishbowls and 8 1:50 scale MCI Classics as New York Bus
Service

3 Corgi Fishbowls, 8 1985-86 GMC RTS's, 7 MCI Classics, and 6 1994 TMC RTS 6 as
Green Bus Lines, 6 Orion V's (bus bank

4 Corgi Fishbowls, 9 1985 GMC RTS's , 8 MCI Classics, and 11 1994 TMC RTS's
as COMMAND bus Company.


5 Corgi Fishbowls, 10 1985-86 GMC RTS's, 10 1994 TMC RTS's, 9 MCI Classics,
and 7 Orion 5's as Triboro Coach.


7 Corgi Classic Fishbowls, 12 TMC RTS's , 6 MCI Classics and 5 Orion V's
as Queens Surface

5 Corgi Classics Fishbowls and 11 MCI Classics as GMC Fishbowls as
Liberty Lines Express.

alot of them layout with HO scale Subway trains of NYCTA, IND,IRT and BMT.
Both elevated and underground...



and Last but not least, custom rebuilt bus banks MC-9, MC-9A and MC-9B as the
Acadamy Private Bus Co.

[siberianmo]

It's bloomin' amazin' it is!

I began this thread to find modern day HO U.S./Canada city transit buses on 28 Feb 2004 and the "discussion" ended on 4 Mar 2004. Lots of fun and dead end streets ......

For some strange reason, the thread reappeared on 8 Sep 2005 and lives on and on ... whether it's on point or not! [swg]

Perhaps it's time to put this particular thread to rest and begin a new one .... check out
http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?page=-1&TOPIC_ID=43930&REPLY_ID=472411#472411

And it goes on and on ....... [tup]

My Kingdom for a modern day, North American HO city transit bus!

[Anonymous]

(GULP) I uh errr umm, well I drive for Tri-met here in Portland Oreg.(our transit agency) and every line feeds our lightrail system. And I always bid on a line that is close to the UP mainline, and I'm known as "TRAINMAN"@ work! BigBoy and BigGirl that should qualify. doesn't it?? :) TrainsRMe

[joeh19012]

Boy! Did this topic spark a lot of replies!!

Siberianmo--

I had been searching for city buses for a while, too. I finally found 1/87 scale buses by Road Champs in either a hobby shop or toy store. They are die cast vehicles, and my two original purchases were of buses painted for New York. I repainted them to match Philadelphia's SEPTA system, filed off the rear number box, and have 2 perfectly fine buses. Then, I found a "souvenir" model of a SEPTA bus on their web site and bought it. I feel lucky to have 3 buses.

Whenever I had the chance to reply to "What kind of products would you like to see?" I always answered "contemporary city buses." For whatever reason, these ubiquitous vehicles in reality are not available as models--even though some of the rarest trucks and cars are never seen on the road but always highlighted in catalogs and web sites.

Good luck in your hunt. I hope you find what you're looking for. [8D]

[Anonymous]

Is there a good web site for prototypical city transit buses, with photos?

I'm trying to identify a bus before the fishbowl types. It was used in the early portion (1960) of the movie "A Bronx Tale." Two rectangular windows made up the windshield. The passenger windows were almost square, with another "sun" window above each.

Thanks. Jim

[davekelly]

You forgot some MP54 consists running commuters! I lived in Phily from 1982 - 1986 and your dream sounds like a fantastic one!

[Anonymous]

I Had a dream last night about a few model layouts of Transit Philadelphia year 1983.
The Southeastern Pennsylvania Transportation Authority (SEPTA) bus and trolley and
train layout..


The buses that I've mention :

20 of 1:50 scale Slope Rear1980 GMC RTS II's from Fleet # 8000-8264
16 1:50 scale 1982-1983 Neoplan AN440 Transliners from #8285-8584
6 1:50 Corgi Classic GMC Fishbowls as 1967-70 GMC 4150-4427 Referbished W/
rubber bumpers.
8 1:50Flxible New Looks (1972-74)from 6000-6665
5 1:50 AMG Trackless Trolleys from fleet 800-909.


9 Corgi Classics PCC cars as SEPTA
Imperial Hobbies :5 O scale Kawasaki LRV as The Subway-Surface/EX- Kansas City PCC
2 of St Petersburg Tram's Ex Toronto Pulman-standerd PCC's


HO scale 4 car Train-set of the Market Frankford Line (M-3's)Subway Elevated.
HO scale 5 car Train-set of the Kawasaki B-IV's Broad Street Subway


and A Few Silverliners models (budd,GE and St Louis Car . Co. side by side at good
ol' Reading Terminal in Philadelphia


SEPTA 1983....

[AntonioFP45]

QUOTE: Originally posted by bcawthon

Antonio,

Where you been, good buddy? The Athearn Macks have been out long enough to sell through a couple of first runs.

There's the Mack B, good from the early fifties to today, though it went out of production in the mid-1960s. Then there's the Mack R, introduced in 1966 and produced almost to the end of the 20th century.

Currently both models are produced as single and tandem axle tractors, concrete mixers, dump trucks and wreckers and we're working on them to get box vans and flatbeds, too.

And you've got the Athearn Ford Cs, good from 1956 to today (production ended late enough in 1990 that some were counted as 1991 trucks).

CMW has another nice truck headed our way. The word is out but I believe the official kickoff will be at iHobby Expo next month.

Incidentally, Walthers has already sold through their first shipment of the Busch "Fishbowl" buses, so you'll need to check your LHS or wait until close to Christmas when Walthers is expecting a new shipment. Bill C.

Hey Bill,

Thanks for the heads up. My goof in not reading the info. You're right, Athearn has had those Macks out for a little while. I was aware of their Ford C series as there's a batch of them at my LHS.

I've been checking with my LHS regularly regarding those detailed GMC buses. Word is any day now. Looking forward to it! I've only been waiting 26 years!![:D]

[bcawthon]

Neoplan man reminded me that Neoplan US has been making transit buses in the U.S. for over 20 years. An AN440 could be a very good model for several fleets.

[Anonymous]

The NewFlyer D40 would also be another great idea for the 1:50 scale toy company.
The New Flyer Industries wuas established in 1987. buses are still operating in
San Francisco and other major cities in the US and canada. They're somehow
operated desiel transit buses, but somehow like a trolley bus. because in the rear of these models, They are somewhat built like The Flyers and The AMG's.

[bcawthon]

QUOTE: Originally posted by AntonioFP45

I'm happy that Athearn is coming out with some 1950s-60s trucks! I believe they're Macks.

Antonio,

Where you been, good buddy? The Athearn Macks have been out long enough to sell through a couple of first runs.

There's the Mack B, good from the early fifties to today, though it went out of production in the mid-1960s. Then there's the Mack R, introduced in 1966 and produced almost to the end of the 20th century.

Currently both models are produced as single and tandem axle tractors, concrete mixers, dump trucks and wreckers and we're working on them to get box vans and flatbeds, too.

And you've got the Athearn Ford Cs, good from 1956 to today (production ended late enough in 1990 that some were counted as 1991 trucks).

CMW has another nice truck headed our way. The word is out but I believe the official kickoff will be at iHobby Expo next month.

In addition, I understand ADP finally has an American dealer. These are resin models made in Germany, but there are some nice old Chevy, Dodge and Ford trucks in their assortment.

Incidentally, Walthers has already sold through their first shipment of the Busch "Fishbowl" buses, so you'll need to check your LHS or wait until close to Christmas when Walthers is expecting a new shipment.

Bill C.

[AntonioFP45]

Bill,

Don't worry. Big_Boy was just rattling everyone's chain! His wife builds buses! So he was "just-a-teasin".

Big Boy! Now look what you did! Go stand in the corner for 30 minutes!

Bill, it goes without saying that vehicles are a must on any reasonably realistic model railroad. There was a modeler (Ron Kuykendall) who appeared in MRR years back.. His 1950s themed layout featured a mid-sized American town that was packed with cars and trucks in the streets. Was very impressive and is the inspiration for the layout I've designed.

I'm happy that Athearn is coming out with some 1950s-60s trucks! I believe they're Macks.

Peace!

[bcawthon]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Big_Boy_4005

I don't usually explode like this on newcomers, but I view it as being at least in bad taste, and perhaps almost rude, for someone to come to a model railroading website such as this and ask about buses.

Better hang onto your hat: you've met someone who isn't going make excuses for having something besides flanged wheels on a layout. In fact, I like scale cars and trucks as much as I like trains. But that's just me and I sure as heck am not going to try to ram my tastes down somebody's throat because their desires for their layout don't match my ideas. That would be rude.

Yes, this is a model railroading forum. But unless we're all going to stick with track on wood, that means there are going to be lots of topics - structures, trees, scenicking, figures and, yep, vehicles. We might even talk boats sometime. They're all part of what it takes to make our layouts the worlds in miniature most of us want.

Bill C.

[bcawthon]

QUOTE: Originally posted by siberianmo

My Kingdom for the whereabouts of modern (1990's to present) U.S./Canadian city transit buses! All my research to date has essentially been circular and trips to the Great American Train Shows pretty much the same! Help - please.
Thanx[:)]

Go to http://www.rietze.de. Click on "Zum Shop," "Rietze Modelle," "1:87, Spur HO," "Busse" and take your pick of MAN, Neoplan or Setra. The Neoplan Metroliner and Cityliner have been used in the U.S. (Pittsburgh had Metroliners). Setra does have a U.S. type bus but it's more of a tour bus. I think you'll find some of the S315s will do for a modern American city bus as will a couple of the MAN buses. You'll need to clean off the printing with some Polly S ELO and do a paint job, but these are nice buses. They will run about $24.00 or so.

You can order direct from Rietze, but you will need to know a little German to do it. They do accept credit cards.

German Aircooled (http://www.germanaircooled.com/cart/index.php?page=shop/index does have a limited selection of the Rietze bus models.

T'ain't perfect, but it's the best I can offer right now.

Bill Cawthon