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Posted by WP 3020 on Wednesday, May 7, 2008 12:29 AM
Good info HEdward! I wonder how many official temperature collection sites are now located on roof tops or have air conditioner or generator exhausts located too near them? I understand they have found some in Oregon like that contributing to inflated readings and averages. I think if there is any global warming it is that star activity cycle that the Earth is near that is the main contributor. And maybe the increased usage of bongs and such paraphernalia in the "in tune with nature" crowds I see around my living location.
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Posted by alco49 on Tuesday, May 6, 2008 9:09 PM
Good point.. you may be right . Speaking of arctic animals, what is it with environmentalists and polar bears dying?Confused [%-)]
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Posted by HEdward on Thursday, May 1, 2008 5:26 PM
 alco49 wrote:
 Tjsingle wrote:

Hey,

I personally dont have anything, but I have A coal Mine :D, plus me and my father  "accidentally" cut down a tree on earth day.

Whats gobal warming? Its a myth Wink [;)]

Tjsingle

At the risk of being the subject of hatred, it's not. Global warming is real, but I dont think model railroading is the main cause.Big Smile [:D] And yes, I do live in a hippie townLaugh [(-D]

psst.....in Nov 2002 they proudly proclaimed actaul measurements from 1900-2000 showed a  0.07degree C rise.  After a few very loud voices read my blog on the matter(plagerizing BEES!)pointing out that that means to go up one full degree it would take 1429 years, suddenly the media sheep began quoting one full degree rise over that century.  Nobody stopped them.  Nobody questioned them.  In the past TEN years, with weather monitoring stations covering far more of the planet than in the first 8 decades of the last century, temps have not changed on a worldwide average.  So where's all this warming?  Hello?  Anyone?  Cliamte change is NORMAL and MY model railroad has nothing at all to do with it.  Now if you still want to think that man made climate change is not a complete fabrication, then douse the incense, lose the bong, and discontinue all electric service to your commune.

So who's going to use solar panels to power their railroad?

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Posted by vsmith on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 6:18 PM

How about adding models of solar PV panels to your buildings rooftops? or in a field along the tracks? Windmill turbines?

If you want to get cheeky, Revell long ago made an N scale model, complete with interior, of an atomic power plant, however its almost impossible to find today, and is hence very expensive.

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Posted by HarryHotspur on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 4:57 PM
Okay, I've made my contribution. I removed all the cows from my layout.

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Posted by Dave Vollmer on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 2:15 PM

Not my pic, sorry...

But ya got meat and big oil in one shot!

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Posted by lvanhen on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 2:06 PM
Dave, I just looked at your pic again - you eat at Shell Rapid Lube?  I bet the food slides right down!!
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Posted by Dave Vollmer on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 1:55 PM
 lvanhen wrote:
 Dave Vollmer wrote:

Along the lines of fur and baby seals...

Nice shot Dave, but don't you think those telephone wires disrupt the pastoral nature scene?Laugh [(-D]

Gotta have some way to order take-out... 

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Posted by lvanhen on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 1:41 PM
 Dave Vollmer wrote:

Along the lines of fur and baby seals...

Nice shot Dave, but don't you think those telephone wires disrupt the pastoral nature scene?Laugh [(-D]

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Posted by Lillen on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 12:32 PM
 Dave Vollmer wrote:

Along the lines of fur and baby seals...

 

Great stuff. This will be my new desktop!

 

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Posted by Dave Vollmer on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 12:11 PM

Along the lines of fur and baby seals...

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Posted by OzarkBelt on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 11:31 AM
You guys are hilarious! Glad some people can turn "serious topic" into some funny jokes. That lifted up my spirits. Thanks guys!

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Posted by Lillen on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 9:14 AM
 tomikawaTT wrote:
 lvanhen wrote:

 jecorbett wrote:
I'm thinking of running a string of express reefers carrying whale meat. Take that Greenpeace!!!

How about some box cars full of fur coats - and not the fake fur ones!!Evil [}:)]

Throw in a unit train of ethanol tank cars and I'll take the package!  (Talk about phony greenLaugh [(-D].)

Chuck (modeling the green hills of Central Japan in September, 1964)

 

Instead of ethanol I will be running tankers filled with whale oil and of course the furs will be made out of baby seals clubbed to death by Norwegians up on the ice. Smile [:)]

 Magnus

 

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Posted by tomikawaTT on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 7:12 AM
 lvanhen wrote:

 jecorbett wrote:
I'm thinking of running a string of express reefers carrying whale meat. Take that Greenpeace!!!

How about some box cars full of fur coats - and not the fake fur ones!!Evil [}:)]

Throw in a unit train of ethanol tank cars and I'll take the package!  (Talk about phony greenLaugh [(-D].)

Chuck (modeling the green hills of Central Japan in September, 1964)

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Posted by lvanhen on Tuesday, April 29, 2008 10:06 PM

 jecorbett wrote:
I'm thinking of running a string of express reefers carrying whale meat. Take that Greenpeace!!!

How about some box cars full of fur coats - and not the fake fur ones!!Evil [}:)]

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Posted by jecorbett on Tuesday, April 29, 2008 9:57 PM
I'm thinking of running a string of express reefers carrying whale meat. Take that Greenpeace!!!
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Posted by Packer on Tuesday, April 29, 2008 5:59 PM
 WP 3020 wrote:

I'm also going to have several places where trees have been cut down and hauled by rail to places so they can be cut up. And at the places where the trees were cut down, new little trees will be put down so they can grow up. That is a recycle if I ever heard of one. How green is that? I may even have a pace or two where beavers chewed some trees down to dam a stream up.

I hadn't thought of this being green, bu I've always wanted to build the two experimental BN LNG units and fuel tender in both N and HO. Now that would be... uh... lets see 1 X 2 X 2(because they'll be painted green) X 2 or... uh @#$%! How are supposed to figure out that carbon credit @#$%! anyway?

However Al Gore wants to figure it to make money. There's a reason why he's trying to come up with that stuff.

I have around 13 empty coal hoppers. I'm hoping to put a load in them someday.

But as for my plan, it's the 70s. The is no global warming conspiracy, and the global cooling conspiracy has ended. (according to the conspirists, the causes are the same)

So mine's going to be set before ethanol, or Al Gore.

Vincent

Wants: 1. high-quality, sound equipped, SD40-2s, C636s, C30-7s, and F-units in BN. As for ones that don't cost an arm and a leg, that's out of the question....

2. An end to the limited-production and other crap that makes models harder to get and more expensive.

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Posted by alco49 on Tuesday, April 29, 2008 11:21 AM
 Tjsingle wrote:

Hey,

I personally dont have anything, but I have A coal Mine :D, plus me and my father  "accidentally" cut down a tree on earth day.

Whats gobal warming? Its a myth Wink [;)]

Tjsingle

At the risk of being the subject of hatred, it's not. Global warming is real, but I dont think model railroading is the main cause.Big Smile [:D] And yes, I do live in a hippie townLaugh [(-D]
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Posted by Mailman56701 on Tuesday, April 29, 2008 7:54 AM
 selector wrote:

For my own green contribution, I think I'll remove all the children from my layout.  Once those pesky potential problems are out of the picture, global warming will slowly stop and the Earth will return to its prehistoric and pristine state.

 

 

 

Right?

Whistling [:-^]

 

  Hehe.  It seems thats what some folks would like to have happen  Sigh [sigh]

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Posted by train 62 on Tuesday, April 29, 2008 3:02 AM
IT is really too bad that someone could not take all the garbage thats coming out out of the politicans mouths and use it in some way!?Dead [xx(]
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Posted by WP 3020 on Tuesday, April 29, 2008 2:18 AM

I'm also going to have several places where trees have been cut down and hauled by rail to places so they can be cut up. And at the places where the trees were cut down, new little trees will be put down so they can grow up. That is a recycle if I ever heard of one. How green is that? I may even have a pace or two where beavers chewed some trees down to dam a stream up.

I hadn't thought of this being green, bu I've always wanted to build the two experimental BN LNG units and fuel tender in both N and HO. Now that would be... uh... lets see 1 X 2 X 2(because they'll be painted green) X 2 or... uh @#$%! How are supposed to figure out that carbon credit @#$%! anyway?

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Posted by HarryHotspur on Saturday, April 26, 2008 11:09 PM

Most of my layout is covered with either asphalt or concrete - and no retention ponds. Amazingly all tests have shown that it's as "green" as any other model railroad.

Please email me if you'd like to join my Pave the Earth Society. So far it's been a huge success.

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Posted by Dallas Model Works on Saturday, April 26, 2008 2:39 PM

If by "green" you mean "olive drab," then yes.

I'm planning an industry called Grimster Munitions, named for a military modelling friend.

Flat cars loaded with M4 Grizzlies, Centurions or Leopards depending on the era of the moment!

 

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Posted by Dave Vollmer on Saturday, April 26, 2008 8:28 AM
 loathar wrote:

BEHOLD! The Green Goats...
http://www.railpower.com/products_hl_ggseries.html

I don't see the farmers near me putting a lot of corn in this year. Most fields have been turned from corn and soy beans to hay production. I would have thought corn with the ethanol thing, but I guess there was a big hay shortage last year and prices really shot up.

Last years' hay shortage was a result of the devastating drought across the southeastern US.  North and South Carolina grow much of the hay going to livestock feed and almost the entire years' crop was lost.

This year I hope things go better. We've refilled the municipal resevoirs with some very good rains lately, but the groundwater is still critically low.

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Posted by loathar on Friday, April 25, 2008 8:39 PM

BEHOLD! The Green Goats...
http://www.railpower.com/products_hl_ggseries.html

I don't see the farmers near me putting a lot of corn in this year. Most fields have been turned from corn and soy beans to hay production. I would have thought corn with the ethanol thing, but I guess there was a big hay shortage last year and prices really shot up.

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Posted by Tjsingle on Friday, April 25, 2008 6:16 PM

Hey,

I personally dont have anything, but I have A coal Mine :D, plus me and my father  "accidentally" cut down a tree on earth day.

Whats gobal warming? Its a myth Wink [;)]

Tjsingle

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Posted by Mailman56701 on Friday, April 25, 2008 4:36 PM
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 With out trying to get to political I want to build some type of recycling plant/center on my layout also after reading about Bio diesel I'm looking at buying a set up for my home and thought it would be a good idea for my layout.

I do not know much about ethanol. But I'm for any thing that helps the American farmer. We have the greatest country in the world but we are putting our farmers out on the street. I have see farms both large and small up north and down south shut down and now are neighborhoods for city yuppies. Sorry this is a sore subject for me. We can feed the world but our farmers are loosing there farms.    

 

  Hmm...they need to move here then; avg. farmer *profit* in this state in 2007 was 104k. 

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Posted by Renegade1c on Friday, April 25, 2008 11:18 AM

 R. T. POTEET wrote:


My railroad will contribute to "green" by only running down hill and using its diesel for the sole purpose of dynamic braking.

Dynamic braking has nothing to do with the diesel generator. It is disconnected during dynamic braking. A large resistor grid is attached to the electric traction motors ( which in the case of dynamic breaking are acting as generators). the resistor grid limits the amount of current that can be passed (it is turned into heat) which increases the load of the traction motors causing the train to slow down. the diesel generator is idling. This is why the dyanamic braking unit has such large cooling fans ( too cool the resistors). it keeps the resistor grid cool. 


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Posted by selector on Friday, April 25, 2008 10:56 AM

For my own green contribution, I think I'll remove all the children from my layout.  Once those pesky potential problems are out of the picture, global warming will slowly stop and the Earth will return to its prehistoric and pristine state.

 

 

 

Right?

Whistling [:-^]

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