TrueLine's CPR Red/Yellow Caboose in Script: What era is it good for?

[Melchoir]

I am modelling a period a few years earlier and am looking for the script lettering scheme on mineral brown sides which came before the red sides with scirpt lettering. I have an extra red sides with script lettering  for trade if  anyone has the one I'm looking for. These are copies of the originals.

[Fergmiester]

Maritime Hobbies and Crafts in Halifax may have some left actually I believe they do. If you call them say Fergie sent ya!

[BATMAN]

Pathfinder. Pacific Western Rail in Surrey shows they have one. I bought the three that didn't have the multimark including the red one with the yellow ends. On my railroad in 1957 they did a test painting to see if the bright red and yellow would scare the wildlife away in my 15' long Rogers pass. It worked so well that 10 years later they got around to painting the rest of them. That's my story and I am sticking to it.

Brent

[Pathfinder]

Hey Pathfinder

Kelly's in the loops has a pile of these in both CP colors, Rick here in town has them all and they do look good, Also Jonathan from RBH and a Member of the local club has them as well and usually brings a box of stuff to the weekly meetings so as far as finding one they are here.

Mike

Thanks Mike, I thought Kelly's would have some but I won't be in to Kamloops till third week of May due to my work schedule.  So if I can pick one up in my travels, that would be good.  If not, oh well.......

[CPrail]

Hey Pathfinder

Kelly's in the loops has a pile of these in both CP colors, Rick here in town has them all and they do look good, Also Jonathan from RBH and a Member of the local club has them as well and usually brings a box of stuff to the weekly meetings so as far as finding one they are here.

Mike

[selector]

Pathfinder, I don't know if Ken would have one.  If I were pressed, I'd say most assuredly not because he closed his operation in the store last June.  His wife is about to close her part of it in the next couple of months.  Ken stated that he would like to keep his supplier on the hook and that he would take orders, but I have not dealt with him.  I would contact Central in Vancouver.  And to be perfectly frank, I would try Canadian Model Trains first.  They would be the most likely to have one or two left unspoken for.

-Crandell

[Pathfinder]

Thanks all, this is good info.

Crandell, I will be on the Island (the start of a 3 week work trip that goes from Jordan River to Vanderhoof ) so may try to get one in Victoria.  For the rest of the trip, I will be going by LHSs when they are closed   Do you know if Ken in Naniamo has one?  Last time I was there he still had a small train section but that was during the winter.

Bob, I also have John Riddle's book and those are the only photos I have seen of it.  And I agree, I like the scheme and just want to get one.  Like I need another caboose

Fergie, a nice reply from TLT, thanks for sharing 

David, I expect you are correct and that would work very well for me.  Of course its my railway, so I can run what I like if I want 
 

I wonder if TLT will do the plywood version?  Very popular on the E&N when I was growing up on the Island. 

[Fergmiester]

I had some of the same questions and sent away to TLT for qualification and this is what they sent me.

CPR Caboose Background

This model represents the most common type and size of wooden caboose on the
CPR system.  A derivative of the earliest cabooses, it includes the common
two windows per side and a standard cupola with some of the windows blocked
out from the original '10 window' cupola.

Since the CPR built and modified their own equipment, there were many
variations in the details.  The model as presented represents a caboose that
has had the cupola sides upgraded to plywood from the original scribed
siding.  It also includes the cast trucks which replaced the arch bar
trucks.  The ends include the storm doors which were added early in life to
protect against the cold winter.  The 'K' brake and 'stem winder' brake
wheels are also modeled on an upgraded steel underframe, which was common on
many of these cabooses until their retirement.

As built, the CPR painted these cabooses in a single line block lettering
for the road name.  This was applied to a mineral brown car, with red ends
and yellow high lights.  In 1963 these cars began to be painted with the
script logo.  In the late 60's a number of the cars were painted bright red,
with yellow ends as cars began to be assigned to pool service, as the
railway phased out assigned cars.  In 1970, the multi-mark paint scheme was
introduced and was applied to some of the scribed cars.  

Fergie 

[Railphotog]

There has been a discussion on the CPSIG Yahoo Groups about the eras of the TLT cabeese.  This is what one poster said about your caboose:

"Script on red sides with yellow ends started about 1967 and was the shortest
lived because Multimark started in 1968."

I was interested in the reply because that's the model that I got too.   I got it just because I liked the scheme.  The only time I've seen a photo of a caboose in this color was in the book "Canadian Pacific Color Guide to Freight an dPassenger Equipment" by John Riddell (Morning Sun Press).  It has two shots of the scheme, although the cabeese are plywood sheathed rather than the individual boards of the model.  One of the photos in the book was taken about 60 miles from where I live, by a friend of mine.  So it does have a local connection for me.

The photos in the book are dated 1968 and 1973.

 

 

 

[selector]

I felt the script would have been right for my earlier transition era, but the folks at Cdn Model Trains said that it came a bit later...so you should be okay.  Contact them at Cdn Model Trains and you'll get put right.

-Crandell

[Pathfinder]

 I am wondering which of the TL CP cabooses to buy.  I was leaning towards the "classic" red and black but I see the Red and Yellow too.  When did this scheme run on CP's caboose's?  Would it be OK for mid to late 60's in Western Canada?  Reason I ask is that I have not noted a lot of photos of this scheme so was wondering how prevalent it was.