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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, March 29, 2008 4:27 PM

Im not concerned with aircraft. If you lost all power, you still have a bit of time before your eventual meeting up with the ground. All the day and night every day C130's fly at about 300 feet or so overhead. Sometimes there is a pilot who cuts the corner a bit trying to stay with the leader.

Did we have hoppers capable of side dumping? Im not sure but I thought I saw some that can do the job very well. (Not the difco ones, I might be thinking of those overseas)

I also was thinking if we replaced that dirt train with a fleet of dump trailer trucks and a few flatbeds with backhoes and blades showing up onto the jobsite. Might get the job done faster and cheaper than that used by the railroad.

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Posted by concretelackey on Saturday, March 29, 2008 2:32 PM

I can't wait to see the anti-thread to this one titled "One step to failure".

seriously though, the safety authoritys might have a hard time finding fault here. If the operator and his crew followed a few simple safety precautions and pre-operation checks then there is little danger.

Is the train braked and blocked?

All systems and equipment on the back hoe inspected and in fine operating order?

has the ground itself been checked to be sure there are no soft spots?

To me, although outside my personal realm to attempt myself, what that operator is doing is safer than hoping that the several hundred ton airliner stays in the sky while it flys over my head. The same as those that enjoy jumping from a perfectly good airplane....and assume that their parachute will open everytime. This guy only has a 12-18 foot drop to endure, not a drop of 10,000 feet.

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Posted by reklein on Saturday, March 29, 2008 2:20 PM
Once he's up on the car he scoots himself along as he unloads . When he comes to the next car he hops the gap in the same manner he got up there. Its a cool manuever, it must squeel a lot as its being shoved forward. When the front bucket is on the car and the hoe is on the ground hes got a pretty solid three point stance. Just wanna be careful not to swing the hoe while your still suspended.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, March 29, 2008 1:21 PM
He probably shoved that backhoe until the middle brackets engaged and then used the front end bucket tilted downwards to edge forward until he got the rear stabilizers onto the hopper. At that time he would then be save to put up the backhoe and move forward under rubber tire power.
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Posted by georgev on Saturday, March 29, 2008 7:38 AM

 reklein wrote:
Thats nuthin new. I saw that in a heavy equipment magazine about ten yrs or so ago. If the horsepower and hydraulics are up to it should be no problem. You'll also see that the machine has been modified to do that trick.

I see the clips or brackets on the bucket and midpoint of the frame.  Are those the mods you are referring to?

What I don't understand is how it moved forward from pictures 5 to picture 6.  Did he use the backhoe to push himself forward, sliding on those brackets? 

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, March 29, 2008 7:32 AM

Sheesh, a Equiptment Operator shows talent and carries around some.. well.. Clankers and everyone wants to run for the Safety Office and file.

The safe way to do it will be to build a ramp or some kind but time consuming, expensive and delays the work unnecessairly.

Find a safe solution that doesnt cost anyone money, THEN we will see happy people. Until then we make do. And if it flips? Oh well.

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Posted by larak on Friday, March 28, 2008 11:52 PM
Is OSHA aware of this? Obviously not or do do they not regulate railroads?

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Posted by trainman6446 on Friday, March 28, 2008 9:16 PM
Modeling "brakie" seens easy compared to modeling this move. DCC to the rescue
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Posted by SilverSpike on Friday, March 28, 2008 9:09 PM

Now that operator sure has some guts doing those moves!

Getting down must be the same moves in reverse, but quite scary I bet!

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Posted by Packers#1 on Friday, March 28, 2008 9:08 PM
Freakin' Hilarious.

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 28, 2008 8:47 PM

Well, the hydralics is the heart of the machine.

Ive taken a 4x4 CAT 936 front end loader and balanced it just so that it literally stands on the rear bumper when shaving the rockpile at the ready mix plant. The problem is you have to meet gravity at right angles from front to rear with no lean or pull or you will break the hydralics or flip the machine down to the side and break it (Or maybe crush you to maim or gorekill.... It takes my total concentration and I cannot be distracted while doing this back then. When you have three or four 18 wheel dump trailers bringing in rock you need to make room for them to unload.

Ive seen the Ballast Trains with the backhoe inside one of the hoppers. These are in the green hoppers on the UP out of N Little Rock. I think I see them once a week or so in the morning.

With a good strong hydralic pump and no leaks/weakness anywhere in the vehicle's systems you literally have the muscle to do things you can invent in your head with the machine simply a part of you.

Mentally you became the tractor. You think dig here and it's dug.

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Posted by jwar on Friday, March 28, 2008 6:51 PM
I have seen employees do these things to show how they can save the Company a buck or two without any thought of personal saftey to them selve or to others, and the company loves it and turns a blind eye, untill an outrigger hose fails, it flips and cost's the company the big buck's, in personal injury, in equipment damage, downtime and guess who get fired to doing somthing stupid, you bet
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Posted by cudaken on Friday, March 28, 2008 6:27 PM

 Driver is not that bright! But, sure has some brass ones! Sure hope they have AFFlack, there duck would dritty it self if it saw that!

 

                 Cuda Ken

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Posted by reklein on Friday, March 28, 2008 6:23 PM
Thats nuthin new. I saw that in a heavy equipment magazine about ten yrs or so ago. If the horsepower and hydraulics are up to it should be no problem. You'll also see that the machine has been modified to do that trick.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 28, 2008 6:20 PM
Wow....how do they get it out?Laugh [(-D]
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Posted by Robby P. on Friday, March 28, 2008 6:17 PM
And you think you have seen it all.

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Posted by john galt on Friday, March 28, 2008 5:48 PM

there is a fine line between bravery and foolishness.  on the side of safety, that was foolish but on the admiration of skill, i have to pay respect, but where are the pics of the exit?  

also as a union man i have to wonder why that man allowed hisself to be put in the position of doing such a dumb thing just so the company can save a buck?  I know railroads are all about profit but that seems to go to far

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Posted by Lillen on Friday, March 28, 2008 4:39 PM

My vote is for including that on every driving license exam. Alternatively as a way of determining if people are drunk when stopped by the police.

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 28, 2008 4:38 PM
I know how to get one of those unstuck from axle deep dirt piles but I would love to see one of those crazy things GET OUT of those hoppers.
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Seven steps to success
Posted by richg1998 on Friday, March 28, 2008 4:34 PM

Rich 

 

If you ever fall over in public, pick yourself up and say “sorry it’s been a while since I inhabited a body.” And just walk away.

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