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Book o' Heralds?

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Posted by dehusman on Monday, March 3, 2008 8:03 AM

The closest I've seen is an article on herald design in an Layout Design Journal article many years ago.

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Posted by trolleyboy on Monday, March 3, 2008 12:02 AM
Hi Go to morning sun books website. Over the years they have published many books on the freight car colours  heralds and designs of many different railways. best thing about the Morning Sun Books is that they aer generally done in colour.
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Posted by Dallas Model Works on Saturday, March 1, 2008 11:48 AM
 andrechapelon wrote:

Not a book, but lotsa heralds: http://www.signalsigns.com/

http://pages.globetrotter.net/burridge/Identities.html

Andre

Signal Signs is a good start -- thanks!

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Posted by Dallas Model Works on Saturday, March 1, 2008 11:45 AM
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Dallas - To be of any actual value to the modeler, illustrated listings of RR heralds and lettering styles absolutely must include a specific citation as to from when to when that scheme was applicable. Anything less is nearly worthless, as many railroads dramatically altered their logos and lettering styles multiple times between the earlier transition era and the conclusion of the 1960's. In a few cases they were modified as many as 3 or 4 times in the course of little more than a dozen years! So, unless you are modeling a relative modern railroad line, or already know the time frame a particular heralds is correct for, you can find yourself in trouble very quickly.

One of the better available references, on a broad scope and in book form, are the car diagram books issued by Walthers (1940's and 50's) and later Herald King or Champ Decals, CDS Dry Transfers, and for early schemes, Clover House. Reference to anything less is likely to result in the inappropriate rendering of specific cars.

CNJ831

Well, I didn't mean just a picture book of pretty hearalds.

It appears from the replies that no such book exists, although certainly in the world of graphic design there are many books that exist on the history of branding and packaging (which is essentially what railroad liveries are).

I've seen books on soft drink labels and logos as well as those for cereals.

I've also seen (and own) many books on WWII tank and vehicle insignia.

I was hoping to find one authoritative source instead of having to root around in several books and web sites, but perhaps none exists.

 

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Posted by dehusman on Saturday, March 1, 2008 9:33 AM

Or look at Microscale, Art Griffin or other decal maker's websites.

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Posted by Paul3 on Saturday, March 1, 2008 9:29 AM

If you are looking for heralds, you could also try the NMRA Data Sheets.

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Posted by dehusman on Saturday, March 1, 2008 8:02 AM

Look at the railroad's web sites.  I know th UP used to have a large history of the evolution of their heralds.

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Posted by CNJ831 on Saturday, March 1, 2008 7:59 AM

Dallas - To be of any actual value to the modeler, illustrated listings of RR heralds and lettering styles absolutely must include a specific citation as to from when to when that scheme was applicable. Anything less is nearly worthless, as many railroads dramatically altered their logos and lettering styles multiple times between the earlier transition era and the conclusion of the 1960's. In a few cases they were modified as many as 3 or 4 times in the course of little more than a dozen years! So, unless you are modeling a relative modern railroad line, or already know the time frame a particular heralds is correct for, you can find yourself in trouble very quickly.

One of the better available references, on a broad scope and in book form, are the car diagram books issued by Walthers (1940's and 50's) and later Herald King or Champ Decals, CDS Dry Transfers, and for early schemes, Clover House. Reference to anything less is likely to result in the inappropriate rendering of specific cars.

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Posted by andrechapelon on Friday, February 29, 2008 11:43 PM
It's really kind of hard to support your local hobby shop when the nearest hobby shop that's worth the name is a 150 mile roundtrip.
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Book o' Heralds?
Posted by Dallas Model Works on Friday, February 29, 2008 11:36 PM

 

Can anybody recommend a good book of railroad hearld artwork (if one exists)?

I've got lots of books with a UP shield here and a CNR leaf there but I'm really looking for a book dedicated specifically to heralds and other RR logos and typefaces.

Any suggestions are much appreciated.

Thanks.

Craig

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