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? for composition of a ca. 1950 C&O coal train

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Posted by VAPEURCHAPELON on Thursday, January 31, 2008 6:37 PM
 tomikawaTT wrote:

OTOH, a given colliery might be serviced with only one type of car, or with cars of similar characteristics (all flat ends, or all peaked ends.)  In that case, the cars following the H-6 off that branch would be typical of that mine, but not of the entire roster.

Chuck,

have many Thanks. I never thought of this possibility. For me, this eases up the situation somewhat. 

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Posted by tomikawaTT on Thursday, January 31, 2008 6:23 PM

Looking at the table, it appears that the C&O cars with peaked ends had them installed as an after-market conversion of flat end cars.  That table also gives a good basis for how many cars of which type to include if you want a truly representative train.

OTOH, a given colliery might be serviced with only one type of car, or with cars of similar characteristics (all flat ends, or all peaked ends.)  In that case, the cars following the H-6 off that branch would be typical of that mine, but not of the entire roster.

Either way, research is definitely in order.

Chuck (modeling Central Japan in September, 1964 - with1/700 of the JNR's freight roster)

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Posted by VAPEURCHAPELON on Thursday, January 31, 2008 5:09 PM
 wmshay06 wrote:

The COHS has the answer for you..An add-on to the Dec 2006 COHS Newsletter is available online that reviewed the twin hoppers and available models.  The direct link to the pdf is:

http://www.cohs.org/modeling/articles/1169662283.pdf

There are also some great publications available on the hoppers available from them as well.

 

Charles

Charles,

thank you! That is of great help. I already got some definite info out of this article, but probably I will contact the COHS personally.

Thanks again. 

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Posted by wmshay06 on Thursday, January 31, 2008 4:33 PM

The COHS has the answer for you..An add-on to the Dec 2006 COHS Newsletter is available online that reviewed the twin hoppers and available models.  The direct link to the pdf is:

http://www.cohs.org/modeling/articles/1169662283.pdf

There are also some great publications available on the hoppers available from them as well.

 

Charles

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Posted by VAPEURCHAPELON on Thursday, January 31, 2008 4:13 PM
 DigitalGriffin wrote:

I believe Atlas Trainman line makes the peaked end type you seek for C&O.

Unfortunately not, they make flat end and round - or oval - end cars. The peaked end car looks like this one at ebay:

#120214894336 

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Posted by DigitalGriffin on Thursday, January 31, 2008 4:05 PM

I believe Atlas Trainman line makes the peaked end type you seek for C&O.

 

Don - Specializing in layout DC->DCC conversions

Modeling C&O transition era and steel industries There's Nothing Like Big Steam!

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? for composition of a ca. 1950 C&O coal train
Posted by VAPEURCHAPELON on Thursday, January 31, 2008 4:02 PM

Hello around.

I try to build a C&O coal train which should come close to a common sight around 1950. Up to date I have 86 cars of various types, both with "For Progress" lettering and without. Mostly these are 34' offset side 50 ton two bay hoppers. What I still do not have is this type with peaked ends. ATHEARN brought the car with several C&O letterings but only with flat ends. So did C&O not have peaked end 50 ton offset hoppers? Or do I have to letter them myself? If C&O used these with peaked ends, what do you think would be a credible percentage within the whole fleet? Is it sufficient to have 5 or 6 (within a train of about 120 cars), or do I need a whole bunch to be prototypical?

I heard that the 34' two bay rib side hopper - a very common car - is NOT a good match for this train. Is this correct? Didn't C&O use that type?

Furthermore, I have some very nice two bay hoppers with fishbelly side sills. These have been made by STEWART. They only have the "For Progress" lettering. Would it be correct to have some of these with normal lettering, too? Or did these fishbelly hoppers come that late? Same question with the ATLAS 40' AAR 70 ton 3-bay hopper.

Many thanks for your help. 

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