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Bachmann Spectrum Dcc 2-8-0

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Posted by New Haven I-5 on Wednesday, January 2, 2008 2:50 PM
 It is suppoused to come today! I will post about it after the first test run!

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Posted by nyc4me on Tuesday, January 1, 2008 9:33 PM
does that mean you've got it or you ordered it? Glad to hear you decided to take the plunge though, getting one already sound equipped. I had mine before they offered it with sound and I installed a tsunami myself. good engine! I sure like it and hope yours does just fine!
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Posted by New Haven I-5 on Tuesday, January 1, 2008 7:00 PM
 Sorry to bring up an old post, but I bought a HO Scale Bachmann Spec. WM 744 with DCC & Sound at Wholesaletrains for only $136.99!

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Posted by New Haven I-5 on Thursday, December 6, 2007 7:31 PM
 Thankyou everyone who has partcipated! I really appreciated it! Now, what whistle does the Southern 4501 wear?

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, December 6, 2007 6:20 PM
 mikebo wrote:

My spectrum consolidation (with DCC and Tsunami) will pull 12 hoppers with metal wheels each weighing 3.5 oz up a 7 ft grade that starts as 2% and ends with a short stretch of 4%. It will easily pull 22 (maybe more, I didn't try any more) on level track.

Mike 

 

My layout has similiar grades as Mike and I been runing different engines around at different speeds.  My 2-8-0 is DC and it will pull 13-40 ft boxcars weighted to 3.5 oz around without a problem.  However if you stop or slow it down on a grade it wouldn't do anything but slip. 

As to a level track my layout doesn't have any so I can't give a number. 

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Posted by RoyalOaker on Thursday, December 6, 2007 2:29 PM

I picked up a used one at a recent train show and love it.   A little cleaning and away it went, it pulls everything I needed it for without any problem (10 cars on flat track), runs very smooth and looks great.

I have no idea how many hours this has been run, but I would expect it to last me a good long time.

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Posted by mikebo on Thursday, December 6, 2007 12:33 PM

My spectrum consolidation (with DCC and Tsunami) will pull 12 hoppers with metal wheels each weighing 3.5 oz up a 7 ft grade that starts as 2% and ends with a short stretch of 4%. It will easily pull 22 (maybe more, I didn't try any more) on level track.

Mike 

 

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Posted by jrbernier on Thursday, December 6, 2007 11:02 AM

  I have a pair of the Spectum Baldwin 2-8-0 engines.  Both have Soundtraxx DCC/Sound in the tender and they operate great - very smooth.

  As far as pulling:  I have a 2.7% grade that is over 20' long, ending with 180 degrees of curve.  My 2-8-0's will each pull about 7-8 NMRA weighted freight cars(metal wheels) up that grade.

  Someone mentioned that their Bachmann/Spectrum 2-8-0 will not pull anything up a grade - Maybe the older Reading prototype 2-8-0 with the wide 'Wooten' firebox?  I have seem lots of the Spectrum Baldwin 2-8-0's on layouts - All run very smooth and seem to pull like mine.

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Posted by secondhandmodeler on Thursday, December 6, 2007 10:43 AM
 cacole wrote:

 secondhandmodeler wrote:
The one I have came with the dcc installed already.  I don't use dcc, but  I figured I may want to in the future.  Maybe mine is newer than the non pullers.

The HO scale model's pulling ability is directly related to the engine's weight, and has nothing to do with what type of decoder is or is not in the tender.  I don't think there's any difference at all in the locomotive's construction between the original and current releases other than perhaps being made by a different factory in China.

I didn't mean that the decoder made a difference.  I meant that since it is obviously a newer offering, maybe it runs differently.  I'm confused by claims of poor pulling ability, that's all.
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Posted by cacole on Thursday, December 6, 2007 10:01 AM

 secondhandmodeler wrote:
The one I have came with the dcc installed already.  I don't use dcc, but  I figured I may want to in the future.  Maybe mine is newer than the non pullers.

The HO scale model's pulling ability is directly related to the engine's weight, and has nothing to do with what type of decoder is or is not in the tender.  I don't think there's any difference at all in the locomotive's construction between the original and current releases other than perhaps being made by a different factory in China.

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Posted by DigitalGriffin on Thursday, December 6, 2007 9:58 AM

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cacole, would it be okay to put a weight in the tender?Or would the decoder interfear?

 

Why would you want to?  You would want additional weight over the driving wheels which are in the engine, not the tender!

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Posted by secondhandmodeler on Thursday, December 6, 2007 9:53 AM
The one I have came with the dcc installed already.  I don't use dcc, but  I figured I may want to in the future.  Maybe mine is newer than the non pullers.
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Posted by New Haven I-5 on Wednesday, December 5, 2007 6:54 PM
 Well, the 2-8-0 i'm talking about has a decoder already installed. Its the new one. All the new ones (i think) have a Dcc decoder. Look at www.Firsthobby.com

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Posted by jerryl on Wednesday, December 5, 2007 6:53 PM

  I take it we're talking HO. the one I have doesn't pull at all.  Not bad on straight level track, but doesn't like ANY grade. Probably 3 or 4 cars up a 2% grade. So far, no motor problems, but I did notice that NWSL has a gear set listed for this engine...Maybe they know something.

   My Spec. Climax pulls better than the 2-8-0   Jerry

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Posted by cacole on Wednesday, December 5, 2007 6:48 PM

The DSX is a sound ONLY decoder, which means you must also have a motor control decoder to go with it.  That's trying to cram too much into the tender.  I'm sure SoundTraxx makes their regular motor and sound decoder for a K-28. 

Give Bruce Petrarca at Litchfield Station or Tony's Train Exchange a call.  You can also check the SoundTraxx web site to see what they have for a K-28.

Better still, you can buy one with a SoundTraxx Tsunami already installed, which is one of the best decoders for the Consolidation.  Micro-Mark is selling them with Tsunami sound for $147.50.  http://www.micromark.com 

 

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Posted by New Haven I-5 on Wednesday, December 5, 2007 6:41 PM
 Would it be a good idea to put a DSX Dound Decoder in it. The decoder I want is a DRGW 2-8-2, K-28 Class No.473. I riden behind a K-28 before, and the whistle was music to my ears!

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Posted by cacole on Wednesday, December 5, 2007 6:40 PM

 New Haven I-5 wrote:
cacole, would it be okay to put a weight in the tender?Or would the decoder interfear?

There's already a weight and constant lighting circiut board in the coal tender, which barely leaves room for a decoder.  The Vanderbilt tender has less room than the square one.

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Posted by secondhandmodeler on Wednesday, December 5, 2007 6:30 PM
My Spectrum 2-8-0 can pull ten cars up an almost 5% grade.  Granted, the grade is only six feet long, but it goes up just fine.
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Posted by New Haven I-5 on Wednesday, December 5, 2007 6:22 PM
cacole, would it be okay to put a weight in the tender?Or would the decoder interfear?

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Posted by cacole on Wednesday, December 5, 2007 6:17 PM

I have three Bachmann Spectrum HO scale 2-8-0 Consolidations and two of them in G-scale.  How long will a motor last?  I haven't heard of any of them failing, so it's hard to answer that question.  How much can one pull?  Specifications for the prototype by the USRA was that it be able to pull 30 loaded cars at 30 MPH on straight and level track.  And we're talking WWI era rolling stock, which was mostly40 foot boxcars.  How much will the model pull?  Maybe 10 cars on level track without wheel slip; less on an incline.  Gearing failures?  I haven't heard of any on these forums, but that doesn't necessary nean that they can't fail.

Overall, the Bachmann Spectrum model is a very good, reliable model.

 

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Bachmann Spectrum Dcc 2-8-0
Posted by New Haven I-5 on Wednesday, December 5, 2007 6:00 PM

Ok, I have heard this is a good engine. I would appreciate it if anyone could tell me how long the motor lasts, how many cars it can pull on level, 1%,2%,& 3%, & if the gears blow easily or anything like a Athern Steam Locomotive would act!

                                          Luke

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