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Posted by modelmaker51 on Thursday, December 6, 2007 1:31 PM

OK. I will see if I can find the drawings that I used for the cables, you should be able to piece them together from a couple of the modern GE sets, the DW castings are soft metal so they're somewhat pliable.

You're model looks great! I used a fine permanent marker to "pop" those vertical slits in the step guard in the upper right of your photo.

Jay 

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Posted by Darth Santa Fe on Thursday, December 6, 2007 10:43 AM

modelmaker51
I have no idea which ones I used as I always have a ton of parts on hand, (I'm the source for parts in my area and I also use a lot of them doing the custom work). Since I'm not likely to build any more of these, I'll take a look and what I have left. I know I have the truck sideframes if you need a set of those.

I'll tell you what I'll do, I still have a couple frames left, so tomorrow I'll dig out my molds for the frame cables and cast them on to a frame for you, I'll send you mine, if you like it, you can send me your blank one back. All it'll cost is postage.

That's a very nice offer, but I actually already have the truck sideframes, and I already painted everything UP gray.


(That's an old picture of when it was first "finished." I've added NWSL 45" wheels since then)

If the frame was still unpainted I'd gladly except your offer, but at this point I think I'll go ahead and keep the one I have. Thanks anyway!Big Smile

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Posted by modelmaker51 on Thursday, December 6, 2007 12:56 AM

Sorry, missed the post!

I have no idea which ones I used as I always have a ton of parts on hand, (I'm the source for parts in my area and I also use a lot of them doing the custom work). Since I'm not likely to build any more of these, I'll take a look and what I have left. I know I have the truck sideframes if you need a set of those.

I'll tell you what I'll do, I still have a couple frames left, so tomorrow I'll dig out my molds for the frame cables and cast them on to a frame for you, I'll send you mine, if you like it, you can send me your blank one back. All it'll cost is postage.

If this interests you, drop me a line at: modelmaker51@hotmail.com

Jay 

C-415 Build: https://imageshack.com/a/tShC/1 

Other builds: https://imageshack.com/my/albums 

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Posted by Darth Santa Fe on Wednesday, December 5, 2007 11:27 PM

Bump?

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Posted by Darth Santa Fe on Tuesday, December 4, 2007 11:28 AM

Nice SD80!Big Smile [:D]

After looking at what I would need to do to make those traction cables from scratch, I think I'll go with the DW parts instead. Will I need both the #224 and #239 sets? How many parts come in each set? http://walthers.com/exec/productinfo/235-224 http://walthers.com/exec/productinfo/235-239 Is it only 1 of each of what's drawn?

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Posted by modelmaker51 on Monday, December 3, 2007 10:40 PM

Just thought I'd share as no one's seen these in a while:

Rail Power Shells, Fiber optics for headlights and marker lights (white forward/red reverse, front and rear). Homemade castings for rear end of long hood, front end of nose, traction cables on frame.

BTW, can anyone guess what kind of track was used?

Jay 

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Posted by Darth Santa Fe on Monday, December 3, 2007 9:21 PM

Thanks for the extra parts info, modelmaker51. I think I've got the list of parts I need made now.Big Smile [:D]

Detail Associates #2008 set of 3 52" Q-fans
Overland Models #9178 dynamic brake grill
Cannon & Company #1307 set of 4 internal filter screens
Cannon & Company #1408 set of 2 radiator screens

I think I'll be able to make the traction cables myself out of wire and mylar sheet. If not, I'll look into the Details West parts.

This thing's gonna look even better than a Kato SD90 when it's all finished!Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by modelmaker51 on Monday, December 3, 2007 7:01 PM

Train Station Products make nice plastic ones, they're see-through with separate blades, however, the ones I used were brass from Overland Models, Inc. and they are the only place I ever found that had the double screens for the dynamic brake fan.

I haven't checked Overland's web site lately for availabillity, but here are the part numbers:

# 9218 52" Fan Housing for SD80/90MAC

# 9178 Dynamic Brake Grill and Screen for SD80/90MAC

Train Station Products: # 141  52" fan w/blades

Detail Associates has an etched brass 48" Flat Top Grill, part # 2012 (Walthers prefix 229-), that can be used for the DB's upper grill, some fine square mesh screen could be used for the lower screen, (paint it MOW grey). Modeler's tip: Paint the body, DB grill and screen separately, glue in the screen and wait till you're all done with the model to mount the grill to avoid damaging it. The CR SD80's & EMD Demo SD90Mac's had stainless steel or aluminum (unpainted) db grills as delivered, I don't know about other RRs.

RMC ran an article about building the CR SD80MACs basd around the RPP shells, including drawings which were very useful for laying out all the traction cables on the frame using Details West traction cable kits. Without the cables that frame looks bare. I have a mold to cast them on all at once (I built 25  SD80s and a few 90MACs).

If you any questions you can reach me at: modelmaker51@hotmail.com  Good Luck!

note: Detail Associates carried the TSP products at one time, but TSP went independant quite a while ago.

Jay 

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Posted by rs2mike on Monday, December 3, 2007 6:23 PM

find jkt rains and as him.  He just did an engine with both types of fans.  They are really easy and look really good to.  Look at some wpf lately and you will see his BN theme engines.

Have fun

alco's forever!!!!! Majoring in HO scale Minorig in O scale:)

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Posted by Darth Santa Fe on Monday, December 3, 2007 5:50 PM

Thank you, David.Smile [:)] Do you know if they're see-through or not?

(EDIT) Never mind. I just found a picture of them.

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Q about Q-fans
Posted by Darth Santa Fe on Monday, December 3, 2007 5:40 PM

I'm looking at getting some fine detail parts to replace the molded on ventilation detail on my RPP SD90. I can find most of what I need, but one of the only things I can't find are the 3 Q-fans (I think they're called) for the roof. The ones on there now look a little poor, and my SD90 would look much better with some real fine ones. Does anyone know if anyone makes them?

Also, is that last large round vent on the back called the dynamic brake vent? Does anyone make those too?

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