Texas Zepher wrote:Gilford Guy & PA Smith?! Can you answer the questions about your entries in the post above?
TZ:
I'm not Smith, but I am pretty sure that 12"R curve is HOn30", as well as the very short turntable.
Don Z wrote:Texas Zepher wrote:5. Don Z - Why the diamonds instead of a grade? Just too steep? As is, it seems to me one train cannot be making some milage in the loop while one is switching the track in the center.TZ,The idea of using an up and over was tempting, but the grade would have been excessive and prevented the industry leads from working. Part of the appeal to me was the industry switcher having to keep the main clear or making the main hold until the diamonds were clear......
Texas Zepher wrote:
5. Don Z - Why the diamonds instead of a grade? Just too steep? As is, it seems to me one train cannot be making some milage in the loop while one is switching the track in the center.
TZ,
The idea of using an up and over was tempting, but the grade would have been excessive and prevented the industry leads from working. Part of the appeal to me was the industry switcher having to keep the main clear or making the main hold until the diamonds were clear......
Don Z.
Research; it's not just for geeks.
chadw wrote:The crossing by the station is a diamond. The one near the lighthouse should be a double-slip so there is a twice around continuous run.
Thanks chad that helps me understand it.
Texas Zepher wrote: 3. chadw - In your description it says "diamonds". Is the one next to the commuter station really a diamond or a double slip? If really a diamond how does the operation work without the staging extension? Seems that track by the light house is just the tail of a reversing loop and the lead for the engine facilities. I guess I don't see how the outside track of the commuter station is used.
3. chadw - In your description it says "diamonds". Is the one next to the commuter station really a diamond or a double slip? If really a diamond how does the operation work without the staging extension? Seems that track by the light house is just the tail of a reversing loop and the lead for the engine facilities. I guess I don't see how the outside track of the commuter station is used.
The crossing by the station is a diamond. The one near the lighthouse should be a double-slip so there is a twice around continuous run, but the RTS libraries don't have a double slip. I used the shallow angle crossing instead. Spacemouse, could you please add this to my layout description?[Edit- Just forget it. I posted this before I saw the judging thread. You can ignore the above question.]
Chip
Building the Rock Ridge Railroad with the slowest construction crew west of the Pecos.
Before I post my vote in the other thread I had some questions.
1. Gilford Guy - Is that a view blocker backdrop through the center of the layout? As I interpret your plan the staging track is the one on the bottom edge. Is that a view blocker between the staging track and Becket Falls? In your description it states the train returns to staging. Does this mean it has reversed itself somewhere in its journey (making this a diesel type layout), is all Becket Falls staging, or does it back into the staging track?
2. Spacemouse - same sort of question. I presume the diesel powered train reverses itself and runs around the train in Du Bois to return to the yard?
4. P.A. Smith - Are those really 13" radius curves I see in there?
edit - Oh yeah,
C&O fan - On helix mountain, I don't see the Helix exiting to the town on the right. It looks like a switchback to get to that town. Is that just an oversite of a hidden track that didn't show in the displayed version?
PASMITH wrote: SpaceMouse wrote:Think of it as a Haiku.See the AC -12It doesn't go very farNumber 4 turnouts
SpaceMouse wrote:Think of it as a Haiku.
Think of it as a Haiku.
:)
See the 0-6-0
Still switching at a scrapyard
Cars of AC-12
what the heck... here goes
Below is the PB&J in all her (future)glory... a 4x8 N scale doesn't fit the theme, but is and has been fun to fool with,
There...
Now if you want info or stories about the history of the railroad, you'll have to pm or email... I am building it as a family project book centerpiece... fun so far.
Jim
Greg H. wrote: SpaceMouse wrote:I'm putting the entries on my website but we will vote here. I had planned to do the set-up today, but an article I wrote was published in a high circulation newsletter that came out this morning. I've been answering email all day. Hopefully, I'll get it up in the morning.Will we be able to see them side by side, or only one at a time?
SpaceMouse wrote:I'm putting the entries on my website but we will vote here. I had planned to do the set-up today, but an article I wrote was published in a high circulation newsletter that came out this morning. I've been answering email all day. Hopefully, I'll get it up in the morning.
Will we be able to see them side by side, or only one at a time?
Sorta Both
Well I see 13 entries by 11 different authors as follows:
Texas Zepher wrote: CnO Fan wrote: "The Loup Creek RR" Are you certain you are using the right RTS library for that plan? That looks like O-gauge "pieces" to me.
CnO Fan wrote: "The Loup Creek RR"
Hummmmmmmmmmm I'll Look and see
TerryinTexas
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Rader Authority Of Transit (RAT Lines) - Revisited
Here is an out and back design with a figure 8 continuous run. The main feature is a fairly elaborate yard for a 2x8. Trains can be made up taken out and run as many laps as desired and then returned to the yard to be broken up and classified. The concept is an urban transit authority that handles all rail traffic between all the major railroads in a certain city (similar to the TRRA of St. Louis). The yard represents both ends of the lines. This concept allows all types of freight cars to be in the trains as they transfer from one class one Railroad to the other. The industries local to the RAT allow switching of box, reefer, gondola, and flat cars.
One pretends the crossing in the middle of the layout is where the RAT crosses another line requiring an interlocking tower. This also helps explain the heavy traffic.
The tall heavy industrial buildings on the one side are used to break up roundy round look. The junk yard on the other side has tons of detail that draws the eyes away from the loop around it.
A typical operating session would assign each car in the yard a destination being either another railroad or one of the local industries. If enough cars are going to a single railroad a through train could be constructed. More often, only a few cars are going to each railroad so they are combined into a single train that jumps from interchange yard to interchange yard. The cars for local industries along the way are included. If there is only one operator the cars are classified accordingly before picking up the new ones for the next jump. Each time a car arrives at its destination interchange it is considered delivered and becomes a new car.
For two person operation one has the yard while the other takes the road trains out. Three people operation is possible with two road operators, but one road operator is always holding the siding while the other one works or makes a circuit or two. They alternate rather than running simultaniously. This also means that the "run around" track is not available since it has become a passing siding.
Here is the layout:
Here is the scenery concept:
I am sorry they are not in the same orientation. I've resaved the image multiple times and for some reason it will not save rotated 180 degrees!?
concretelackey wrote: I'm curious about how long the voting will be open. A day? a week?
I'm curious about how long the voting will be open.
A day? a week?
I'm figuring a week.
Ok, this is the Sierra Mesa Southwestern.
Last day to make Entries, Name your entry, or give a descrption
If there is no name, I'll make one up based upon the layout.
Examples. Twice around with 2 sidings or Small town switching
Tomorrow I will be starting working on a web page to display all the layouts for voting. If you have not already submitted your layout let me know ASAP so I can allow room for it.
Make sure you have the name you want and your description is how you want it as I will cut and paste that info.
In honor of the holiday, the name is "Turkey Trail Railroad".
SpaceMouse wrote:Okay, one last thing. Think of a name for your layout because that's how people will vote on them.
ereimer wrote: vsmith wrote: ereimer wrote:can you do a timesaver in G on a 4x8 ? that might be interesting to see Yes easily, you actually only need as little as a 2 x 8 to do a classic Timesaver, I did an Inglenook switching puzzle plan on a 2' x 6' area with the idea of it being a portable something for shows, but given the loss of the GATS here I could only see taking it to 1 or 2 shows a year, not worth building for such a limited venue.2 x 6 Inglenook, using HLW Mack engine and HLW shorty carshttp://1stclass.mylargescale.com/vsmith/Microlayout%20Study%202x6%20Inglenook.pdf2 x 8 Timesaver, using same rolling stock as abovehttp://1stclass.mylargescale.com/vsmith/Microlayout%20Study%202x8%20Timesaver.pdf very neat . i'd love to see one built , any examples ?
vsmith wrote: ereimer wrote:can you do a timesaver in G on a 4x8 ? that might be interesting to see Yes easily, you actually only need as little as a 2 x 8 to do a classic Timesaver, I did an Inglenook switching puzzle plan on a 2' x 6' area with the idea of it being a portable something for shows, but given the loss of the GATS here I could only see taking it to 1 or 2 shows a year, not worth building for such a limited venue.2 x 6 Inglenook, using HLW Mack engine and HLW shorty carshttp://1stclass.mylargescale.com/vsmith/Microlayout%20Study%202x6%20Inglenook.pdf2 x 8 Timesaver, using same rolling stock as abovehttp://1stclass.mylargescale.com/vsmith/Microlayout%20Study%202x8%20Timesaver.pdf
ereimer wrote:can you do a timesaver in G on a 4x8 ? that might be interesting to see
can you do a timesaver in G on a 4x8 ? that might be interesting to see
Yes easily, you actually only need as little as a 2 x 8 to do a classic Timesaver, I did an Inglenook switching puzzle plan on a 2' x 6' area with the idea of it being a portable something for shows, but given the loss of the GATS here I could only see taking it to 1 or 2 shows a year, not worth building for such a limited venue.
2 x 6 Inglenook, using HLW Mack engine and HLW shorty cars
http://1stclass.mylargescale.com/vsmith/Microlayout%20Study%202x6%20Inglenook.pdf
2 x 8 Timesaver, using same rolling stock as above
http://1stclass.mylargescale.com/vsmith/Microlayout%20Study%202x8%20Timesaver.pdf
very neat . i'd love to see one built , any examples ?
Sorry never got beyond the planning stage, these are still big layouts and I dont have the spare room
Have fun with your trains
Name
"The Loup Creek RR"
I forgot to say that if this layout were running DC you could isolate the mainline crossovers and reverse the polarity on one of the mains with a switch making it possible to run trains in opposite directions using one DC power pack