(European Train models) Help from experts please...

[Anonymous]

Hold up.

For those of you who keep insisting that there is no market or persons interested in European equipment in the U.S, I am here to defend...... again.

I love my Euro. stuff, just as much as my U.S stuff. 

Granted more U.S markets are U.S equipment, and that MR Magazine seems to be dedicated to the same, I actively search out European, as well as U.S.

The equipment looks HO scale. I have not come across a OO Fleishmann in a really long time.

Apart from the deeper wheel flanges, (difficult to tell from pics.) they do not look old enough to be OO Fleischmann.

There are even 3 rail HO scale Fleischmanns even new ones manufactured today. 

If you had better pics of the underframe and the couplers, it would help. 

 

[Anonymous]

Hi all,

tnx to everybody. I am starting to know more about train models. As you probably understood i am not a collector. I only have those models and decided to sell them (ANYWAY I AM NOT SELLING THEM HERE! AND I WILL SELL THEM ONLY IN ITALY FOR ITALIAN PPL..!that's just to follow the forum rules).

I didn't know that there is a different "market" in USA and in Europe for this kind of trains. I thought all the collectors knew about all train models in the world...:p. I tried on an italian site, but no one was able to help me except a guy who told me the shell coach could be rare (he send me this link and it seems similar but not the same... http://sammlertreff.de/news/1465e-1b_27.02.05-dlr282.pdf ), i thought in an international site i could have found more experts.

Anyway tnx to all. I'll change the title and checkthe link you gave me.

Daniele

[ndbprr]

Have you tried Ebay and looked for similar equipment?  If not in the US at the bottom left of the opening screen you can choose another country like Germany where there may be a similar item.

[CNJ831]

 George posts:

Before Daniele fries his calculator trying to divide 48 into 87 and come up with 2, I should mention that Half O Jeffery is talking about refers to the gauge (the lateral spacing) of the track, not the scale of the models that runs on them. HO track is 1/2 as wide as that of O track.

O scale is generally accepted to be 1/48 scale. HO scale is roughly 1/87. If you halved O scale it would actually be 1/96. ( 2x48=96 ).

George

This is because HO's scale was not derived from today's accepted O scale. Rather, HO originated from a halving of O tinplate's track dimension, European in origin, which was/is approximately 1/43. A set figure of 1/48 for O scale didn't come along until about 60 years ago, following a battle between the 17/64ths and 1/48th factions. HO's scale was established long before this occurred and thus the seeming discrepancy to folks today.

CNJ831   

 

[andrechapelon]

Before Daniele fries his calculator trying to divide 48 into 87 and come up with 2, I should mention that Half O Jeffery is talking about refers to the gauge (the lateral spacing) of the track, not the scale of the models that runs on them. HO track is 1/2 as wide as that of O track.

O scale is generally accepted to be 1/48 scale. HO scale is roughly 1/87. If you halved O scale it would actually be 1/96. ( 2x48=96 ).

George 

O scale is 1:48 only in the US. In Europe and the UK it's 1:43.5.

In the US, O guage track is spaced at 1.25 inches which actually gives a gauge of 5 scale feet at 1:48, but is nearly dead on 4' 8 1/2" in Euro O scale.

HO gauge is actually .65", which is slightly bigger that the .625" you would get if you divide 1.25 by 2.

Andre

 

[PA&ERR]

Before Daniele fries his calculator trying to divide 48 into 87 and come up with 2, I should mention that Half O Jeffery is talking about refers to the gauge (the lateral spacing) of the track, not the scale of the models that runs on them. HO track is 1/2 as wide as that of O track.

O scale is generally accepted to be 1/48 scale. HO scale is roughly 1/87. If you halved O scale it would actually be 1/96. ( 2x48=96 ).

George 

[MisterBeasley]

I would suggest re-titling your thread so that "European models" appears in the title.  That will help catch the right eyes.

To re-title a thread, go to the first post and click "EDIT."

You might try contacting this group:

http://www.ete.org/

I've seen the modular layout built by the Eastern New England chapter at a couple of shows.  It's a nice display, and shows that they've got a number of interested and talented modellers.

[IRONROOSTER]

There is no established collectors market for Fleischmann trains in the U.S (very few dealers ever carried them).  Thus there is no set value here.  The trains you picture appear to be German prototype which further limits their appeal in the U.S.  They are however very nice trains - I had some when I was a child and my father was stationed in Germany.  When we came back to the U.S. we had a lot of trouble finding dealers to buy more.  You can check eBay to see what Fleischamnn trains are selling for.  But you probably would be better off checking German model train sites and auctions.

Good luck

Paul 

[jeffrey-wimberly]

Hi, could anyone of you have a look to this 3d and help me?

http://www.trains.com/trccs/forums/1219366/ShowPost.aspx

 Tnx, Daniele

I'll just make this link active.

 

Hi, what doese HO means?

HO means half O, or half the size of O scale. As to how much your pieces are worth, I have no idea, as I'm not into European models. But worry not, somebody here is bound to know, or know of somebody who can help.

How about it fellow modelers? Anyone have any ideas?

[Anonymous]

Hi, could anyone of you have a look to this 3d and help me?

http://www.trains.com/trccs/forums/1219366/ShowPost.aspx

 Tnx, Daniele