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Ever get so frustrated with a kit you tossed it out?

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Posted by conrail92 on Monday, September 10, 2007 9:05 PM
I waz once working on a model got frustrated lost directions and sat in a box for a year, came back and finished it one year later :P
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Posted by Bob grech on Monday, September 10, 2007 9:00 PM

 jeffrey-wimberly wrote:
Yes! I got so frustrated with a Proto 2000 covered hopper kit that I threw it out in the trash.
 

If you think P2K kits are hard, try building a Westerfield kit sometime! The urethane parts are so frigile that they break by the slightest touch. On top of that, the only glue that will hold these kits together are the CA (crazy glue) type. Give me a P2K kit anytime!!!   

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Posted by karle on Monday, September 10, 2007 8:10 PM

I too like claycts gave up on Heljan TT with Walther motor drive... just plain junk. Trust me, not worth it.

Also, tried a CVT curvable turn-out kit  and gave up (actually built it but found it worked poorly, even after repeated attempts to improve it).  I love other CVT products, but not these kits.

I have struggled through many tough kits and ended up with nice results, including Tichy Crane (which I found not too bad to assemble) and P2K tank cars and consider myself an anvanced kit builder, but sometimes you just need to quit if it ain't fun and send it to the scrap box.  BTW, if you think the Tichy Crane is tough, don' go near the Tichy coaling tower!  But in the end, that tower is a fantastic model and one of the most impressive on my pike.

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Posted by DigitalGriffin on Monday, September 10, 2007 12:30 PM

Well I saved my log car from the trash.  I think my initial frustration made things worse as I assembled the rest of it.  (Leading to more snapped metal pieces)

Any way, my hats off to Kadee to their top line support staff.  If it wasn't for them I wouldn't have finished this kit.  They have earned me as a loyal customer and I'm going back to buy 3 more.

(And now for the final product...minus stakes and chains)  I assembled this during my lunch hour over the week.  Now that I have successfully put together one, I think I could do it again in 2-3 solid hours.

The wood is railroad tie brown.  (I figured this would make sense for a log car) and the ends were tarnished black.  The bolts, seen on the side of the main center beam, were painted in Aluminum.  (Hence the lack of contrast in colors.)  It's subtle, but just enough in my book. 

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Posted by steemtrayn on Friday, September 7, 2007 1:27 AM
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More times than I care to remember although like some of the other posters, I usually don't throw it all away. I save the useful parts to make something else. An exception was a metal coal mining kit that had to be soldered together. It was my first and last attempt at assembling a metal structure. It required a skills I didn't have and I all but ruined the piece trying to develop those skills. I didn't see anything there worth saving so it went to trash can.

This is my first post since being away from the hobby all summer. Golf takes up most of the free time then. Every year I tell myself I'm going to spend a little time in the train room during the summer months but it never happens. The golf game was really bad this year and I've threatened to give it up and devote more time to the trains. That's another vow that I seem to make every year. Of course, model railroading presents its own form of frustrations as this thread shows. Apparently, I am a glutton for punishment.

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Posted by claycts on Friday, September 7, 2007 12:13 AM

I have ready for my type of TRASH CAN:

Walthers 90 ft TT Kit with Motor

Heljan 98ft TT

Suydam Hopper Car

Silver Streak MOW Car

Tichy Trains 25 ton crane with Boom Car

And about half dozen unbuilt, unlettered Atherns Blue Box Kits.

My trash can is called EBAY!!

Some people will buy what you give up on, TRUST ME. I had a Roundhouse SHay kit Half Finished and sold it for $45.00. All the parts where there along with the "SUPER DETAIL KIT they sold way back when.

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Posted by jacon12 on Thursday, September 6, 2007 9:56 PM

I'm working on a P2K boxcar now and it definitely won't be going down the pike with all it's grab irons.  There's this one grab iron on the sprue and that part is so tiny and so flimsy that out of 6 only 2 made it off the sprue intact.  If you look at it straight for over 5 seconds they automatically break.

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Posted by Bdewoody on Thursday, September 6, 2007 7:39 AM
I hate to admit it but yes this has happened to me more than once, but I usually let the problem kit sit a while to see if I could figure a way around the problem.  In the end though several have ended up in file 13.  Especially recently, I had to move from my house to a smaller living space and many of my unfinished problem projects ended up at the county landfill.  Not jusy model railroading projects.  Several model planes, cars and ships found their way into the trash.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 6, 2007 4:10 AM

I always think I am a patient person but when I try and fix or build things that just dont fit or want to work I resort to the old saying, "If its out of sight its out of mind", I usualy make sure I dont get tempted to try again so a good whack with a hammer usualy solves the problem.

I also think some plastic kits are made over complicated just for the sake of making it complicated, one kit had so many fiddly parts that I got around to building it 15 months after I purchased it.

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Posted by cudaken on Wednesday, September 5, 2007 11:46 PM

 Not a $30.00 kit but a few iteams have went Air Born. But I am Much Better Now, that is what the Doctor keeps telling me!Big Smile [:D]

 Sometimes venting with something fly across the room helps. Few things that I have launched are all rolling again.

 In my Car days I cut off a cheap set of P-S headers with a hot wrench. Took a 2 pound hammer to them then backed over them with the Road Runner a few time and then turned them to slag with the tourch!

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Posted by BRAKIE on Wednesday, September 5, 2007 10:12 PM
Yes..That's why I don't buy car kits with a zillion iddy biddy pieces..I would rather build a steam locomotiive kit.Shock [:O]

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Posted by twhite on Wednesday, September 5, 2007 10:03 PM

Yup.  Any P2K freight car kit, even what they call 'timesavers'.  I've built Intermountain, Red Caboose, Branchline Blueprint and had no problem with them, I can't get one of those P2K's to go together to save my life.  Saved the trucks, though.  Think I'd learn.  Went to my LHS the other day, picked up a ready-made P2K Mather boxcar, guy asked me what I was doing spending all that money on a ready-run, told him it was cheaper in the long run from spending all that money on a kit that wouldn't end up going together right, anyway. 

Have to admit that I'm not a big P2K fan anyway, but those kits make me yell at my students. 

Not a good sign. 

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Posted by on30francisco on Wednesday, September 5, 2007 7:48 PM

YES I HAVE!! I've tried several craftsman kits in both HO and O scales and ended up smashing them with my fist when it came to putting on all the microscopic, extremely fussy details. Unfortunately, I have zero patience with craftsman kits with zillions of parts, however, I find scratchbuilding much more relaxing because I can assemble and build it MY way. Although I still like On30, I've recently become frustrated with all the miniscule details that instantly destruct or are extremely frustrating to put on properly - and details look absolutely terrible if installed wrong. I've wrecked and disposed of many projects - both kits and scratchbuilt - while trying to accomplish this chore. Since my hobby was being filled with frustration - working or even the anticipation of working on a project was worse than having to do the laundry - I've switched to indoor Large Scale narrow gauge. Although it really takes up A LOT of space and I could have a lot less, I find LS very enjoyable to work with and scratchbuilding and detailing are very relaxing - which is what hobbies are all about.

If I should decide to try On30 or even HO again, I would probably go the RTR route - especially where rolling stock and complicated structures are concerned - and focus my love of scratchbuilding and superdetailing on Large Scale. I love building trestles and wooden bridges from scratch in any scale. As far as locos are concerned, RTR rules - even in Large Scale. 

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Posted by DigitalGriffin on Wednesday, September 5, 2007 6:04 PM

Well the support cables that run under the beams didn't go on as easy as I hoped.  But I drilled new holes for them and all is well.

And fast setting ACC is remarkable at repairing things.

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Posted by jeffshultz on Wednesday, September 5, 2007 5:52 PM
Well, there were a couple of balsa wood and tissue paper model airplanes that were entirely too advanced for my youthful skill set... Not even my dad could complete them. The only thing I can think of that got me that frustrated was a MDC Shay - after a 5 + year hiatus in building it, I came back to it only to find I was missing a piece or two. I mailed it off to someone who, fortuitously, was looking for the pieces to one at that time. He turned it into a nice looking static display.

I've got a couple Campbell kits that one of them is partially assembled. But I'll get back to them someday.
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Posted by DigitalGriffin on Wednesday, September 5, 2007 3:23 PM

I ummm...

well...

I kinda...

sorta retrieved my log car from the trash.  I went to the hobby store today and picked up some ACC and new brass wire.

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Posted by fiatfan on Wednesday, September 5, 2007 3:07 PM

I haven't thrown it away but I have a NWSL regearing kit for an Athearn switcher that is still in the "to do" pile.  It's been about 4 years now.  The directions weren't very clear and I think I lost one of the parts.  Maybe some day...

 

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Posted by Gandy Dancer on Wednesday, September 5, 2007 2:52 PM
 Tom Curtin wrote:
You have to be "of a certain age" to know what I'm talking about here.  Who remembers those craftsman passenger car kits Walthers produced decades ago?  Tinplate sides, zamac ends, and everything else wood.  They were the kits from hell.  I had half a dozen of 'em and trashed 'em all!  One of the kindest things Walthers ever did for the sanity of modelers was to discontinue them!!
Send them my way.  I love those kits, and they are going for outragous sums on e-bay.
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Posted by Gandy Dancer on Wednesday, September 5, 2007 2:50 PM

 riogrande5761 wrote:
 jeffrey-wimberly wrote:
Yes! I got so frustrated with a Proto 2000 covered hopper kit that I threw it out in the trash.
I actually built one of those kits and it's lovely,
I've built several and was actually disapointed with the end result.  The brake hoses (which are so hard to get on right) look like they are about 6" in diameter.  Then the roofwalk is so crude and not see-through.  sigh.  

After two or three cars I discovered one trick is to not glue those trianglar lateral center hopper supports.  They fit so tight that glue is irrelevant. 

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, September 5, 2007 2:32 PM

 Gandy Dancer wrote:
 Medina1128 wrote:
I had a friend whose dad worked in the engine shop on the flight line, and he gave us each some old sealed ball beaings. Result: I had the best rolling ugly block of wood Pinewood Derby car that year. Moral of the story:
I thought the moral was that Boy Scouts are bound by honor not to cheat.  Ball Bearings are forbidden, in fact any bearings and washers are forbidden. 

Those? I had one on the shelf for about 30 years until it finally got thrown away, that one made it down the ramp about 6 feet and hung stalled on the high center guide of the competition ramp. The rest of the cars raced the last few dozen feet or so to the end. It was a big old block with very little done to it to maintain mass and weight.

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Posted by Southwest Chief on Wednesday, September 5, 2007 2:19 PM

 Tom Curtin wrote:
You have to be "of a certain age" to know what I'm talking about here.  Who remembers those craftsman passenger car kits Walthers produced decades ago?

Oh my gosh I forgot about those.  My dad had a few and he said they were the most impossible things to build.  They sure look nice in the finished photos, and they had full interiors.  But oh what a nightmare they must have been.

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Posted by Tom Curtin on Wednesday, September 5, 2007 2:14 PM
You have to be "of a certain age" to know what I'm talking about here.  Who remembers those craftsman passenger car kits Walthers produced decades ago?  Tinplate sides, zamac ends, and everything else wood.  They were the kits from hell.  I had half a dozen of 'em and trashed 'em all!  One of the kindest things Walthers ever did for the sanity of modelers was to discontinue them!!
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Posted by Gandy Dancer on Wednesday, September 5, 2007 1:59 PM
 Medina1128 wrote:
I had a friend whose dad worked in the engine shop on the flight line, and he gave us each some old sealed ball beaings. Result: I had the best rolling ugly block of wood Pinewood Derby car that year. Moral of the story:
I thought the moral was that Boy Scouts are bound by honor not to cheat.  Ball Bearings are forbidden.  In fact, any kind of bearings and washers are forbidden in the Pinewood Derby. 
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, September 5, 2007 12:30 PM

I tossed one or perhaps two... well... three... no no no. let's see now.. *Counts fingers...

Anyhow.. I sell them off on Ebay if I find them too much trouble and use the money to get a RTR version. =) sometimes there is a small profit.

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Posted by Southwest Chief on Wednesday, September 5, 2007 11:49 AM

I came the closest with this:

It's a Suydam kit, and when finished turned out great.  But getting to the end was never easy. The walls were a piece of cake but then came the trim and those stairs Disapprove [V]

The instructions were terrible.  I must have read over the part on the stairs 30 times.  The main problem was the instructions did not match the included pieces.  I ended up building the stairs without instructions.  Sort of scratch built in a way. 

I've built other Suydam kits (Ed's Market, Sunkist Citrus, Brown Bungalow, etc...) but their instructions were much better.

As frustrating as it was, I'm pleased with the results.  Only thing left to do is add a name board, but I'm still debating on what name to use.

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Posted by Medina1128 on Wednesday, September 5, 2007 2:43 AM
Although not train related, years ago I was in the Cub Scouts and tried my hand at building one of those Pinewood Derby cars. I saw some of the other guys' progress and decided that I didn't have the modeling fortitude that they had. They had meticulously shaped and sanded their little blocks of wood to look like early Indy cars. Mine ended up still looking like a block of wood, but I had a friend whose dad worked in the engine shop on the flight line, and he gave us each some old sealed ball beaings. Result: I had the best rolling ugly block of wood Pinewood Derby car that year. Moral of the story: I dunno, but I didn't throw it out. Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by cisco1 on Tuesday, September 4, 2007 11:21 PM

Man is this a timely topic! First time in 30 years I've had to admit defeat was last night with a severely warped P2K stock car kit. Though it hasn't become trashcan fodder yet, it's very close.

As far as maddeningly fragile grabs are concerned, brass wire has become my new best friend.

Now, back to the battle; only 11 more P2K tank cars and 4 more stock car kits to go! 

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Tuesday, September 4, 2007 11:09 PM

I started slow and easy.  I've still got a "craftsman kit" that I'm hesitant to tackle, but I think I'm probably up to it now.  Nothing has ever gone in the trash.  (Yeah, another Scotsman.  When I say "nothing," I mean nothing.  I've got sprue from 2 years back.  No parts on it, just sprue.)

I've noticed that the back wall of a lot of DPM kits is too long.  I have to cut one wall-thickness off the end of it to make the rest of the walls square.  My early kits have non-square footprints, because I glued things together before I realized that what didn't look right to my eye really wasn't right.

It takes an iron man to play with a toy iron horse. 

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Posted by jacon12 on Tuesday, September 4, 2007 10:38 PM

uh oh.  And I just bought two of the P2K tanker kits and a P2K boxcar kit tonight.  Normally I tend to stay away from kits, but for 5 bucks apiece I went for it.  Oh well, maybe if I take my time and don't get too frustrated I'll eventually get them together.

JaRRell

 

 selector wrote:

Sort of.  I tackled, as green and unknowing as I was, a P2K tanker kit that gave me fits.  I finally packaged up what few intact bars and grabs I had not destroyed and gave it to a fellow fine modeler who knew how to put it all right.  In fact, he placed brass wire grabs and bars on it for me where they were destroyed.  Looks good now, better than I could have done.

RTR is my friend.  I have low standards, compared to some I suppose, but I must account only to myself since I pay my bills.

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