Trains.com

Subscriber & Member Login

Login, or register today to interact in our online community, comment on articles, receive our newsletter, manage your account online and more!

basic railroading

1027 views
10 replies
1 rating 2 rating 3 rating 4 rating 5 rating
  • Member since
    October 2004
  • 745 posts
Posted by HarryHotspur on Wednesday, July 30, 2008 7:48 PM

 mk55 wrote:
how do you measure that from the track to the wood i mean how do you measure the incline?

mk55 -

You measure the length of the track. For example, suppose your loop up the mountain was comprised of an 18" radius curve, then one complete circle would be 113 inches (pi * diameter). So, if your incline was 3 degrees, your track level would rise 3.4 inches in a complete circle.

- Harry

  • Member since
    August 2004
  • From: Amish country Tenn.
  • 10,027 posts
Posted by loathar on Wednesday, July 30, 2008 1:26 PM

I used 1x3's to make my risers and then screwed 1/4" plywood to that for my sub roadbed.

Then used screen and plaster for the "ground" around it.

 

  • Member since
    January 2004
  • From: Crosby, Texas
  • 3,660 posts
Posted by cwclark on Wednesday, July 30, 2008 11:16 AM
  A 4' x 8' sheet of plywood isn't very much space for inclines less than 2%.  My layout is 23' x 25' and I use a 1/4" rise for every 16" so i'm only coming up 1" every 64" for a 1.5% grade ( and it's still pretty steep for long trains.) One thing you could do is to keep all your track level and build your scenery so that it rises and falls instead of the track inclining and declining.  It can be done on a 4' x 8' sheet but your trains are going to be no more than 4 -5 cars long to make a grade like that on a sheet of plywood.  Most layouts with inclines on plywood sheets use a figure 8 pattern so that the distance from one end of the plywood sheet to the other is maximized.  There was an article a few years back in MR where this guy made his scenery rise and fall and the track stayed level throughout the entire layout. To get the most from a 4' x 8' sheet of plywood this may be the way to go....chuck

  • Member since
    July 2007
  • From: belle vernon
  • 20 posts
Posted by mk55 on Wednesday, July 30, 2008 7:37 AM
how do you measure that from the track to the wood i mean how do you measure the incline?
  • Member since
    July 2007
  • From: belle vernon
  • 20 posts
Posted by mk55 on Wednesday, July 30, 2008 7:34 AM
my scale is ho my board size is 4x8 im trying to design mountains an have the train incline up an around the mountain an back down the mountain but the train will run in a big loop around the board
  • Member since
    July 2007
  • From: belle vernon
  • 20 posts
Posted by mk55 on Wednesday, July 30, 2008 7:31 AM
i have ho scale my board is 4x8 i want to try build an incline without the risers an have it wrap around the mountain it would be a loop around the board up but a climb up an down the mountain
  • Member since
    June 2006
  • From: Coquitlam BC
  • 629 posts
Posted by fsm1000 on Sunday, July 15, 2007 10:27 PM

 mk55 wrote:
im trying to design a layout that i can add a incline to for the mountains.how would i do that?an as for wiring i have a basic dc control would it work for power or do i need to add anything to it?

 

Hello and welcome MK

As you can see, this is a tad dificult without know ing more about what you are doing or planning.

Anyhow, dc from a proper model railroad transformer is fine for most small layout. As for the incline, so long as it is not too steep it also should be fine.

For most modelers 3% is considered VERY steep. Most try for 2% or less.

 

To find the percentage, 1% would be one inch of rise for every 100 inches of length.

2% would be 2 inches of rise for every 100 inches of length etc.

This is about 1 inch for every 3 pieces of 3 foot flextrack for 1%.

 

I hope that helps get you started. :) 

My name is Stephen and I want to give back to this great hobby. So please pop over to my website and enjoy the free tutorials. If you live near me maybe we can share layouts. :) Have fun and God bless. http://fsm1000.googlepages.com
  • Member since
    April 2007
  • From: Over There
  • 454 posts
Posted by CPRail modeler on Saturday, July 14, 2007 7:05 PM

Sign - Welcome [#welcome]to the forums! 

I actually have a few questions for you. What:

1) scale?

2) size?

3) plan type?

Answer these and I can help.

  • Member since
    March 2005
  • From: New Brighton, MN
  • 4,393 posts
Posted by ARTHILL on Saturday, July 14, 2007 5:12 PM

Welcome.

Lots of questions first.

Adding an incline to a table top layout , use something like Woodland Scenics risers.

For an open gridwork, we need to talk about L girders and cleats and cookie cutter.

If you have not done a railroad before and you do not have a friend who has, you need a book or two to get the proper questions in mind.

For a simple table top, DC is just fine. As the layout gets complex, the block issues with DC make DCC look better.

Keep looking and asking questions.  We look forward to watching your progress.

If you think you have it right, your standards are too low. my photos http://s12.photobucket.com/albums/a235/ARTHILL/ Art
Moderator
  • Member since
    June 2003
  • From: Northeast OH
  • 17,240 posts
Posted by tstage on Saturday, July 14, 2007 5:00 PM

mk,

First off: Sign - Welcome [#welcome] to the forum!  Good to have you aboard! Smile [:)]

Second, what size layout are you planning?  Or, what size area do you have to work with?  You need parameters to work in.  These are crucial to know before trying to design something.

Tom

https://tstage9.wixsite.com/nyc-modeling

Time...It marches on...without ever turning around to see if anyone is even keeping in step.

  • Member since
    July 2007
  • From: belle vernon
  • 20 posts
basic railroading
Posted by mk55 on Saturday, July 14, 2007 4:50 PM
im trying to design a layout that i can add a incline to for the mountains.how would i do that?an as for wiring i have a basic dc control would it work for power or do i need to add anything to it?

Subscriber & Member Login

Login, or register today to interact in our online community, comment on articles, receive our newsletter, manage your account online and more!

Users Online

There are no community member online

Search the Community

ADVERTISEMENT
ADVERTISEMENT
ADVERTISEMENT
Model Railroader Newsletter See all
Sign up for our FREE e-newsletter and get model railroad news in your inbox!