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Scalecoat coming back?

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Posted by richhotrain on Thursday, May 30, 2024 6:18 PM

AntonioFP45
The gallon-can doesn't have much left in it as I've been using it for several years. H.E.T is real automotive lacquer thinner, not a "California-style" substitute formula. However, I plan on buying Scale Coat's thinner once I run out.

I switched to this thinner only because the hobby stores in my area were out of SCII thinner, at the time. I experimented with the H.E.T and it worked. But I respectrfully suggest to modelers that it's best to use the paint manufacturer's recommended additives.

Agreed

Rich

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Posted by AntonioFP45 on Friday, May 31, 2024 10:12 AM

Rich,

it would be cool to see your Mainline cars. Could you consider posting a thread with photos?

richhotrain

So far, I have only airbrushed with acrylics, but I could not agree with you more. Practice, practice, practice, and spray close and slow. I recently sprayed 12 Walthers Mainline passenger cars. In removing the roofs, I damaged one car, so I re-ordered one more new one and then practiced on the damaged car.

Rich

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Posted by hbgatsf on Saturday, June 8, 2024 7:45 AM

Why did Scalecoat and Floquil dissapear in the first place? 

I always thought they were banned because of the solvents.   Something like the tree huggers were worried that if everyone opened a bottle at the same time it could spell the end of life on the planet.  Smile, Wink & Grin

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Posted by rrebell on Saturday, June 8, 2024 9:26 AM

Like many things in life, they got bought out and then the new company thought they were a bother and stopped production, goverment never seems to do anti-trust stuff on nich areas. Also sometimes markets die like original Floquil. Liked the stains but lets face it, that stuff was poison.

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Posted by ATLANTIC CENTRAL on Saturday, June 8, 2024 10:35 PM

hbgatsf

Why did Scalecoat and Floquil dissapear in the first place? 

I always thought they were banned because of the solvents.   Something like the tree huggers were worried that if everyone opened a bottle at the same time it could spell the end of life on the planet.  Smile, Wink & Grin

 

Scalecoat was originally made by Weaver Models who made O gauge trains. The owners retired, Bachmann bought the train line but did not want to be in the paint business.

Minuteman Scale Models bought Scalecoat, but health issues and retirement forced that owner to stop production.

At first he seemed reluctant to sell as if he thought he would made a comeback, but now it is in the hands of new ownership.

So in the case of Scalecoat it had nothing to do with the corperate indifference that eliminated Floquil, Polly Scale and others.

AND, there is no total ban on slovent based paints. There are restrictions on container size, some ingredents, etc for consumer products. There are retailing/marketing restrictions making it harder for retail customers to buy industrial grade solvent based paints.

But the products are still being made for applications where they are still necessary.

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Posted by hbgatsf on Sunday, June 9, 2024 6:46 AM

ATLANTIC CENTRAL

 

 
hbgatsf

Why did Scalecoat and Floquil dissapear in the first place? 

I always thought they were banned because of the solvents.   Something like the tree huggers were worried that if everyone opened a bottle at the same time it could spell the end of life on the planet.  Smile, Wink & Grin

 

 

 

Scalecoat was originally made by Weaver Models who made O gauge trains. The owners retired, Bachmann bought the train line but did not want to be in the paint business.

Minuteman Scale Models bought Scalecoat, but health issues and retirement forced that owner to stop production.

At first he seemed reluctant to sell as if he thought he would made a comeback, but now it is in the hands of new ownership.

So in the case of Scalecoat it had nothing to do with the corperate indifference that eliminated Floquil, Polly Scale and others.

AND, there is no total ban on slovent based paints. There are restrictions on container size, some ingredents, etc for consumer products. There are retailing/marketing restrictions making it harder for retail customers to buy industrial grade solvent based paints.

But the products are still being made for applications where they are still necessary.

Sheldon 

 

Once again I learn something from this forum.  I had the same impression (of a ban)  for Tenax-7 and Ambroid Pro Weld, even though Micro Mark sells their "Same Stuff".  I suspect there is a similar story?

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Posted by rrebell on Sunday, June 9, 2024 8:03 AM

Yea, hated when Ambroid Pro-weld went off market but Weld-on 3 is almost the same.

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Posted by hbgatsf on Monday, June 10, 2024 7:36 AM

rrebell

Yea, hated when Ambroid Pro-weld went off market but Weld-on 3 is almost the same.

 

That bothered me for a while but it turned out well for me.  I wound up buying a gallon of MEK and filling the Ambroid bottles that I had saved.  Many years later I still have a lot of that gallon so I actually have saved some money.

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Posted by AntonioFP45 on Tuesday, June 11, 2024 9:43 PM

Update Cool

The business that now owns Scale Coat is called: 

Iron Horse Model Works.

If you visit Facebook, just type that name in the search bar. Their last post was on June 9th, so things seem to be looking up.

 

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Posted by fisker4jc on Wednesday, June 19, 2024 4:30 PM

Are the paints available yet?

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Posted by AntonioFP45 on Wednesday, June 19, 2024 8:03 PM

Here's an update for June 19, 2024.  Quote from Scale Coat's new owner:

“My name is Robert Handin I am the owner of Iron Horse Model Works. Iron Horse Model Works has taken over operations of Scalecoat Model Paint. We have a small team of employees that will be doing the production of the paint and shipping of the finished product.”

 

 

"I like my Pullman Standards & Budds in Stainless Steel flavors, thank you!"

 


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