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[quote]QUOTE: Originally posted by BRAKIE Athearn develop a drive in that is still in use today by every major manufacturer. Even though this drive has been improved by other companies including Kato.Of course Athearn bashers will never admit todays smooth running drives design was first design and made by Athearn..The old Atlas locomotives didn't look any better then Athearn's.Life Like was a toy.What's a Kato? A Japanese company that made trains for their domestic market. No athearn hasn't done anything to help the hobby along in the days of wooden and metal car kits..Atlas made track and imported N scale.Brass diesel locomotives was worst then Athearn locomotives.You want coffee grinders? Buy the old brass of the 50s and 60s.Funny how many claim to be long time hobbyist forget things wasn't anything like today..Old timers disease I suppose?? Faded memories?? Or wasn't around in the bad old days even though they claimed to have been? Guys,let me tell you straight up..We are spoiled rotten today.How many of todays hot shot modelers can build a Penn-Line,Hobbytown of Boston or Varney locomotive kit?? Shoot,some stumble,trip and fall building a simple Athearn car kit..Some whiners apparently can't even add a simple aftermarket detail part or else they wouldn't waste time whining about a locomotive missing a simple detail part on some forum and then dare call their selves modelers and self proclaim experts and look down on others.[}:)] No,the old days was harsh,lean and mean.You had to have many skills from soldering to rebuilding and building drives just to have a decent running engine.Of course Athearn develop a new drive that was at that time consider to be one of the best made-next to Hobbytown of Boston-which of course you had to build from a kit.Now,surprisingly brass steamers ran far better then brass diesels.[:0] Now,if you wanted a particular locomotive and couldn't afford brass then you built that engine out of brass stock or in some cases tin stock..BTW even the old AHM steam locomotives wasn't to bad for their time.Some old and highly skilled craftsman of that day repowered them after the motor burn out. Enough about the bad old days.[;)] Thank goodness those days are long gone.[:D] About the Athearn pollution? Far less then major industries of that era. [/quote] My sentiments exactly. The scary thing is, that between Horizon and Union Pacific, people who know how to put the kits together from the good old days are going to quite valuble as we will have to teach the rest of our shrinking patronage the ways of building a cast metal Bowser Kit. If we know whats good for up, we will whoard all the spare parts we can, while they are still pletiful and the supply can be replenished. Who knows, Bush just may blow the world up yet and we will need our stockpiles anyway. James
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