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Welcome to Jeffrey's Trackside Diner July, 2020 In The UK and British Isles

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Sunday, July 19, 2020 11:24 PM

MLC: That is amazing work. I can build structural things out of wood, but what you are doing is way beyond my skill set.

Bow

Here is an Ohio barn losing the fight with the surrounding nature.

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Posted by Tinplate Toddler on Sunday, July 19, 2020 11:25 PM

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Ulrich ... I like your station. .... Wow ! 500 trains a day ! I'm amazed you could get a picture of the station without a train with that manu of them.

Must have been a Sunday, when the picture was taken. Sunday sees a lot less train services, in both commuter and express trains, and no freight trains. As we live within earshot of this line - I can actually see the trains when the leaves are gone - I am just glad that our trains are not as noisy, hooting their horns and ringing the bell all the time.

Rob - I am sorry reading about your losing Kanati.

Henry - we are looking for a piece of property somewhere in the northeast of Germany, as prices are rock-bottom in that area. It´s really a remote region, lots of nature and very few people, much to my liking!

I had to rework the plans once more. The original plan was too tight a fit, so I added 1 metre to the house. Still a small place with a footprint of a little over 500 sq.ft.

Today, I will begin to do some serious number crunching to establish the budget for this built. I do hope we will have enough money to go for it.

British steam engines were, compared to what roamed the rails in North America and rode the metals on the European continent, always a little smallish and lightfooted. Not considering the huge articulateds that ran in the US, other European countries relied on Decapods to handle the brunt of their freight services. In Britain, this was the domain for Mikados, which looked right at home in pulling a string of those typical short wheel-based goods vans. It was not until after WWII, when the standard class 9F 2-10-0 hitb the rails. Rather late, than none of these powerful engines saw more than ten years of service.

Today´s video introduces one of the popular British built Mikados, Sir William Staniers LMS class 8F.

Enjoy!

Edit: I just did my math on the house, using a calculator provided by the builder. Simply steted, the house costs twice as much as I had anticipated, as we have to hire help to do the job. If I were younger and without my health issues, I´d be able to cut out a big chunk of the cost.

But I am not. So here is another dream that has to be buried. I am afraid I don´t have many left.

Happy times!

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Posted by hon30critter on Monday, July 20, 2020 1:04 AM

moelarrycurly4
Here it is trimmed and I have started to match the color with the left side. 

Hi MLC,

Your refinishing skills are amazing! I haven't got the patience to do that quality of work.

I just refinished our pine dining room table. It looks like crap compared to your work, but at least it looks better than it did. I had used a rub-on varathane when I refinished it several years ago and it never really got hard. The result over time was that the surface of the table turned into a grey, unsightly mess. This time I used spar varathane which has hardened nicely. Where I screwed up was in not finishing the sanding by hand, and not using a sealer before re-staining it. Oh well, let's just say it has 'character', for whatever that's worth.Smile, Wink & GrinLaughLaughLaugh

Cheers!!

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Posted by Tinplate Toddler on Monday, July 20, 2020 3:22 AM

Time for a little lesson on British steam engine classification. In 1923, all, but a few railways were grouped to form was known as the Great Western Railway (GWR), the Southern Railway (SR), The London, Midland & Scottish Railway (LMS) and the London North Eastern RAilway (LNER). Each of these conglomerates introduced their own numbering scheme, which lasted until 1948, when the railways in Britain were nationalized and merged to form Bristish Railways (BR). BR had the difficult task to "re-invent" the wheel, which they didn´t but just adoped the classification of the former LMS.

Here we go!

The classification was made up of a number (representing the power output - 0 being low power and 9 high power) and a letter (representing the type of work the locomotive was intended for), e.g. 4F. Over the years there were some modifications to the system, but the basics remained the same.

The principal downside with this method of classification was that it did not distinguish between particular types of locomotive, so many very different types would have been classified '4F' for instance.

The power ranges are as follows:

Passenger engines:

  • 0P= Under 3360 lbs. tractive effort at 50 mph
  • 1P= 3360-4479 lbs. tractive effort at 50 mph
  • 2P= 4480-5599 lbs. tractive effort at 50 mph
  • 3P= 5600-6719 lbs. tractive effort at 50 mph
  • 4P= 6720-7839 lbs. tractive effort at 50 mph
  • 5P= 7840-8959 lbs. tractive effort at 50 mph
  • 6P= 8960-10079 lbs. tractive effort at 50 mph
  • 7P= 10080-11199 lbs. tractive effort at 50 mph
  • 8P= 11200 and over lbs. tractive effort at 50 mph

Freight engines:

  • 0F= Under 6385 lbs. tractive effort at 25 mph
  • 1F= 6385-8064 lbs. tractive effort at 25 mph
  • 2F= 8065-9744 lbs. tractive effort at 25 mph
  • 3F= 9745-11424 lbs. tractive effort at 25 mph
  • 4F= 11425-13104 lbs. tractive effort at 25 mph
  • 5F= 13105-14784 lbs. tractive effort at 25 mph
  • 6F= 14785-16464 lbs. tractive effort at 25 mph
  • 7F= 16465-18144 lbs. tractive effort at 25 mph
  • 8F= 18145 -19832 lbs. tractive effort at 25 mph
  • 9F= 19833 and higher lbs. tractive effort at 25 mph

Engines designed for mixed serviced had the prefix MT and basically followed the power classification of passenger engines. Tank engines had a T as a suffix.

One of the big drawbacks of the system is mixing of various types and makes of the engines, i.e a 3F could be an ex GWR, LMS, NER or SR engine.

Why make things easy when there is a complicated way to solve an issue.

 Edit: This is my post # 2,500. I think in my previous forum life I made it up to 9,500 posts, so now I am over 12,000 posts, yet still nowhere near the post count of our dear late friend Jeffrey aka Running Bear aka The Spray Can Rembrandt.

 

Happy times!

Ulrich (aka The Tin Man)

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Posted by Track fiddler on Monday, July 20, 2020 4:03 AM

Good morning

Been practicing the  when I wake up I get up program for the last month or so.  3:30's a little ridicules though.  Oh well, I'll go with it.

Thanks for the power range classifications Ulrich.  That must have took some time.  All the over the pond videos as well, ...Always Enjoyed!

Going down south a ways to visit my other daughter today.  It'll be good to see her too.  I have a couple small jobs in the building to take care of first.  Got to keep the railroad fund healthy you know.

That would be cool to make a Depot into a house MLC.  It's interesting to see what buildings people covert into homes.  I go by this old stone one in Northfield I really like.  I don't know what the house used to be but it speaks to me and I've always liked it.  I go out of my way to drive by it, perhaps I'm waiting for a Realty sign to be stuck in the front yard one day.  It's made of the same Stone as the Old Mill ruins a couple blocks away.

 

Have a good day everyone

 

 

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Posted by Tinplate Toddler on Monday, July 20, 2020 4:39 AM

I am being a post hog today - have to keep my mind occupied not to lose my sanity!

Did you know, that Exxon Mobile operates a 75 mile network of narrow gauge lines in the north German oilfield. The railroad started its life hauling peat and now transports hot water needed for cleaning drills  and pumps to a number of oil wells and drills. The gauge is just short of 3ft. (900mm).

Happy times!

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Posted by Track fiddler on Monday, July 20, 2020 5:18 AM

Today?  I think you may have been Post-hog for quite some time nowLaughWink  I heard it's contagious.  Maybe I have recovered and you got it nowLaugh

 

 

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Posted by Track fiddler on Monday, July 20, 2020 7:26 AM

Well, time to grab my Plumbing bag and bucket.

 

Everybody have a great day

 

 

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Monday, July 20, 2020 11:37 AM

Howdy 

I just posted in the thread about Neil B having Covid 19. Hope he gets better.

 

This morning I spent a few minutes operating trains. I have a freight train ready to go to my town of Blackhawk with cars for the meat packing plant and for the brewery. 

GARRY

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Posted by RideOnRoad on Monday, July 20, 2020 12:45 PM

SeeYou190
Here is an Ohio barn losing the fight with the surrounding nature.

I wouldn't say it is losing the fight, I would say it is becoming one with nature.

Richard

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Posted by Tinplate Toddler on Monday, July 20, 2020 1:45 PM

Hah! I am being a post hog again!

We have a few days left on our tour throughout Great Britain, so lets see some more spectacular steam action!

And a nice toy for the boys still playing with trains!

Happy times!

Ulrich (aka The Tin Man)

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Posted by moelarrycurly4 on Monday, July 20, 2020 2:45 PM

Its coming a Toad strangler here. 

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Posted by moelarrycurly4 on Monday, July 20, 2020 3:42 PM

A large toad strangler.

gulley washer

 

a sod saoker

Sheep drowner.

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Posted by gmpullman on Monday, July 20, 2020 4:01 PM

RideOnRoad

 

 
SeeYou190
Here is an Ohio barn losing the fight with the surrounding nature.

 

I wouldn't say it is losing the fight, I would say it is becoming one with nature.

 

East Broad Top:

 

 Ghost Trains 149 by Todd Dillon, on Flickr

 

 Narrow Gauge Jungle by 95wombat, on Flickr

 

Cheers, Ed

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Posted by "JaBear" on Monday, July 20, 2020 4:15 PM

There are certainly some great photos being posted.

Track fiddler
Nice sunset Bear.  Peaceful

Actually, Mr. TF, it's sunrise, and I haven't seen one quite like it since.

I'm not sure of the time frame, but this one was taken some (?) minutes earlier, the sequence being ...

sunrise by Bear, on Flickr

3-6-11 by Bear, on Flickr

Cheers, the Bear.Smile

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Posted by howmus on Monday, July 20, 2020 7:42 PM

Evenin' Folks,

Janie, I could use a diet Ginger Ale please.....  Had enough caleries for today.  Did just finish my 5k for the day, but the next couple of days are iffy at best for me to get any running in.  Calling for some nasty, think severe, storms possible.  So, I will likely get done some of the other stuff that has been sitting here waiting to get finished like the next issue of the Lake Shores Limited ( the newsletter for the local NMRA Division).  They want it to be ready to publish by Friday so I have some work to get done...

 Ed, I think those cars have been sitting there for a while... LOL  At least judging by the size of the tree growing in the track.

Very nice sunrise photos there, Bear!

The "Biker Chick" I am dating (Well bicyclist) called this morning and we are planning on riding bikes on the Erie Canal Bike Path on Friday.  That trail was originally the roadbed for the Rochester & Eastern Trolley Line that went all the way from Rochester to Geneva NY way back in the day.  There is even a Trolley Station still in existance along the path.  That has been repurposed to another business, but still looks like the station did in many ways around the turn of the 1900's.  Just outside of Geneva there is the last remaining catenary pole from the line in the front yard of a house.  I'll have to see if I can find the photo I have of it...

Stay safe and don't do anything stupid out there!  It is a dangerous world!!!

73

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Monday, July 20, 2020 8:22 PM

Howdy ... 

Ed .... Those EBT pictures must be of a branch line. Whistling

 

Here is a sunset this evening. 

I took the picture from our house about 10 minutes ago. Actually, that is the sky after the sun went down. 

GARRY

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Posted by Water Level Route on Monday, July 20, 2020 8:26 PM

Rob, I missed the post about your dog.  I'm sorry to hear that.  My condolences.  They are family.

Mike

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Posted by BigDaddy on Monday, July 20, 2020 8:39 PM

Got a call from the nursing home.  My mother is acting more confused than usual and they are testing her urine for infection.

"They found strange things in her Depends"

Me: "Like what?"  Thinking the obvious

"Socks and masks, she has no idea why they are there"

Can't say I would have guessed thatSurprise.  Urinary tract infections in the elderly can do that.

 

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Posted by moelarrycurly4 on Monday, July 20, 2020 9:08 PM

gully washers finally ended. They just popped up out of no where this after noon and suddenly flash flood warnings. 

i went for about 1/2 bike ride it was as nuch as I could do I am out of shape. I will try longer on next ride, If not too hot I may ride to work one day this week. 

OOPs time to feed the guinea pigs they are rattling the cage. 

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Posted by cudaken on Monday, July 20, 2020 10:24 PM

 Eveing Diners

 Flo, give the gang and I a Beer please and Dirk a dog treat.

 

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I just posted in the thread about Neil B having Covid 19.

 Garry is it the diners Mr B? I hope not, he has all ready been through a lot in the last few years.

 Pretty boring day at work. I was OK with that, no head bang trying to figuer out what Jerry the Dunce did.

 Train's are running petty well tonight. Broke out the B&O I1sa and for a change it's not being a pain in the caboose. I need to learn how to power my turnout frogs. If I am running at speed it stalls, the starts up again. I know I can get a better Stay A Live cap, but I have to pull the decoder out and send it to BLI.

 Later Ken and Dirk say's Woof, Woof.

 

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Monday, July 20, 2020 11:13 PM

Ken .. It is Neil Besougloff , former MR editor, who has the virus.  Prayers for him. 

GARRY

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Posted by hon30critter on Tuesday, July 21, 2020 12:06 AM

Dianne and I finally went out to see Comet Neowise. It took us forever to find it even though we knew where we should be looking. The problem was that we were looking for a very bright, well defined object like the photographs of the comet depict. That is not how the comet appears to the naked eye. The photographs are time exposures, usually around 3 seconds. Your eyes only see the amount of light that the comet is reflecting in the instant which makes the actual appearance quite a bit fainter. It is about the same brightness as the surrounding stars, but once you spot the tail there is no mistaking it.

Anyhow, we did manage to spot it. For those of you who would like to see it, look for the Big Dipper. The comet is below the two stars that form the right side of the 'cup', about half way down to the horizon. The tail points straight up in a shallow 'V'.

When Comet Hale-Bopp (sp?) crossed the sky in 1997 we took the kids out to see it. It was much clearer and easier to see. We were observing it from a Conservation Area after hours. The police drove up to find out what we were up to. It wasn't long before they were sharing our binoculars. They had never heard about it. They said we could stay as long as we wanted.

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Posted by BATMAN on Tuesday, July 21, 2020 1:08 AM

Evening all.

Dave it is still not dark here but I will go out and have a look see for the comet in a while.

It was a scortcher day today and I floated around in the pool with my two kids for a couple of hours, it was wonderful to just sit and talk with them. Hardly see my son these days as he is working so much. His temporary position that started sitting in on advisory sessions with the Feds on this covid thing has now turned into sitting in with Government and UN officials and he prepared a couple of reports for them on data that they did not even ask for and they were so impressed he now has a staff of three assigned to him. He took down all the hockey posters in his bedroom as that is where he works from and thought a more conservative background would be better.Laugh He continues with his hockey writing and has had three more job offers from that. He is also rewritting and updating exams for University level finance students to take as the regulations change constantly so they need to be kept current.

He needs to go back to Ottawa for some one on one meetings, I am glad this virus is mostly under control here so he should be safe.

Rob, sorry to hear about your dog. My old dog is still hanging on and seems happy but is very weak and it won't be long I don't think. The wife did a blood draw and it was just the most horrible blood you would want to see, it looked more like cool aid as you could see through it. She ran a full panel and the results made one wonder how the dog was still alive.

Went and bought some guitar strings today, $51.00 for two sets. The times they are changing. I have had my two guitars for 50 years. I wonder what a new set cost back then? I change them quite often, every month or two, but my tiny brain doesn't remember them being that expensive a couple of months ago.Laugh

Henry, my Mother-in-laws brain stops working with all her bladder infections as well.  My wife makes her a home made tumeric concoction that keeps her pretty sharp most of the time. It is quite noticable when she misses a couple of days.

Dave I have one of those weed torches as well, it's from Lee Valley. It works well if you do a weekly patrol and don't let things get away from you. Burning fosil fuel is better than pouring chemicals into the groundwater I guess. My driveway is concrete and 126' long as well there are the sidewalks and patios and a quick blast with the torch where the greenery is growing out of the cracks works.

Seeing all these great photos everyone is posting makes me realize how overdue I am for some Rocky Mountain time. I need some quiet hikes in the mountains to recharge.

Lastspike, is that the HMCS Victory in your avatar? I went on that, what a memory. My cousin commanded some of the Royal Navys better known ships and I use to stay with him when I went to England. I got the VIP tour of the Portsmouth Navy Yard. Including a couple of submarines. We would go to a pub just off base and the floor beams were worn down about 8 inches over the centuries. It was an officers hangout and I sat in a seat in the corner where Captains like Cook and Vancouver had tipped a few.

Speaking of England I just read that British Airways is retiring their 747s years early due to the covid 19 issue. Man I had lots of great flights over the pole to Heathrow on BA 747s, a lot of fond memories. A couple really stand out including a nine hour flight back to Vancouver where I really hit it off with this drop dead gorgeous girl. The middle seat was empty and the flight crew kept walking by dropping 300ml bottles of wine on the seat between us. There is more to the story but we will leave it there. I often wonder how many days I have spent on 747s. They are the best.

British Airways retires entire fleet of 747s, effective immediately

Crying

All the best to all.

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Posted by Tinplate Toddler on Tuesday, July 21, 2020 3:25 AM

Good Morning!

It´s quite nice outside, not too hot, not too cold, not too dry and not too wet, not too windy and not too bright, but not too dark, either.

Is it a beautiful day? Well, not really -at least not for me. I fell into a deep black hole after finding out that there seems to be no way for us to live the life we want to have. I don´t know how many bubbles have burst recently, but I know for sure there will not be any bubble bursting in the future - I simply give up dreaming.

 

Happy times!

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Posted by hon30critter on Tuesday, July 21, 2020 3:36 AM

Tinplate Toddler
I don´t know how many bubbles have burst recently, but I know for sure there will not any bubble bursting in thefuture - I simply give up dreaming.

Hi Ulrich,

Please take a couple of days to recoup.

Dave

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Posted by gmpullman on Tuesday, July 21, 2020 6:06 AM

Look where the throttle is:

 Century_life13 by Edmund, on Flickr

Then see where the needle is:

 Century_life20 by Edmund, on Flickr

 

Yes sir! The Century is on time tonight.

 Century_life28 by Edmund, on Flickr

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Posted by Track fiddler on Tuesday, July 21, 2020 6:55 AM

Good morning

Mr. Sandman Musta gave me extra sleep time this morning to make up for yesterday's early bird specialLaugh

I liked the old black and whites Ed.  Looks like the steam engineer's gave that railroad engineer an ape hangerLaugh

I didn't know bladder infections affected the brain.  The few times I've had one, Judy's cranberry juice remedy has always worked to wash it away.   Not the sugar cocktail, the 100% stuff you mix 50/50 with water and tastes like battery acid.  I'm sure a very serious one takes a little more remedy than that.  I hope your mother gets better soon Henry.

I haven't changed my bass guitar strings since I bought it Dave.  I do notice I'm having to tune it more frequently and it doesn't stay tuned for long.  I suppose the strings are stretched out and it's time to buy new ones.

There are 120 decks on the building I live in.  The first floor decks are cement but I have 80 Decks that need rotten boards replaced at my leisure.  These decks were built with 1 by 12 Cedar skirt boards.  A very popular poor design.  With fall leaf debris getting trapped between the seam, the water had nowhere to go over the years and rotted the ends out.  I always built my decks with the decking ran wild over the edge, then snapped a line to cut.

I always knew 95% of the Cedar comes from Canada.  But I didn't know the lumber yards are out of stock. 

Canada has the coronavirus thing under control as the US doesn't.  Shipping Cedar to the US is on hold.  This is the story I have heard anyway.  Regardless of the reason, this does put a damper on my future job security hereTongue TiedSad  Oh well, I may have to find something else to do.  There always seems to be a sporadic flow of inside work.

There's a wall cloud of storms approaching this morning.  Judy and I love storms.  Not the kind that are destructive of course.  Just a good friendly summer storm to be enjoyed.  We are hopeful it doesn't split and go around the city like it frequently does.

 

Have a great day today guys

 

 

TF

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Posted by Steven Otte on Tuesday, July 21, 2020 8:55 AM

Ulrich, saying this may cause you to stomp off in a huff again, but I'm sick of having to tell you this. I will NOT have you posting ethnic slurs in my Forum. Don't do it again.

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Posted by Tinplate Toddler on Tuesday, July 21, 2020 9:36 AM

Steven Otte

Ulrich, saying this may cause you to stomp off in a huff again, but I'm sick of having to tell you this. I will NOT have you posting ethnic slurs in my Forum. Don't do it again.

 

I am sick and tired of being bullied by someone like you! Delete my acoount!

Happy times!

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