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H0 Bombardier-Alstom HHP-8?

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H0 Bombardier-Alstom HHP-8?
Posted by BayCoastLimited on Wednesday, March 25, 2020 10:11 AM

I know Bachmann had a Spectrum version back in the mid 2000's but those are available via the second hand market these days. Im honestly surprised no one else makes these locomotives, either in Amtrak or MARC livery.

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Posted by Wolf359 on Wednesday, March 25, 2020 1:19 PM

I'm inclined to think that the Spectrum version is the only model of this locomotive available. Is there any particular reason you may not want the Spectrum version? Or, do just prefer something that hasn't been run before? If that's the case, if you keep looking there's a good chance that you might be able to find a new old stock unit out there. I've bought many a second hand locomotive that was new old stock, and they all run great.

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Posted by BayCoastLimited on Wednesday, March 25, 2020 1:46 PM

There's no particular reason, i'm just not keen on paying triple digits for a locomotive from a secondhand dealer. Just more of a personal preference i guess.

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Posted by BigDaddy on Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:28 PM

Some things on Ebay are overpriced, even when there are many of the same item at lower price.  I only see one for sale right now.

You can set a search alert and get an email when there is a new listing.

This is not my era, but I have to think that despite what Rapido has produced, modern passenger travel is in the decline in the US and that influences what people choose to model.  In other words, the demand probably isn't there to justify new tooling and a new run by another manufacturer.

 

Henry

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Posted by BayCoastLimited on Thursday, March 26, 2020 7:06 AM

Its a shame if modern passenger travel is in decline in the US. Im just glad i picked my Atlas ALP45DP and multilevels when they were still in stock.

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Posted by mbinsewi on Thursday, March 26, 2020 7:19 AM

I have this one, and a set of 4 cars, but I don't have any wires on my lay out, I just had to have it.

It's been sitting a while.  Reveiwed in the Dec. 2005 MRR.

Mike.

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Posted by rrinker on Thursday, March 26, 2020 7:59 AM

 Just when you think you've seen enough nuts on ebay - holy cow, selling the HHP-8s for MORE than original MSRP AND THEY ARE BROKEN. Seems everyone manages to break one or both pantographs on them.

Obvious someone is buying them for those prices, or they wouldn't put them so high. However it seems they go for MSRP or less when viewing the completed items. The $150+ sellers are dreaming.

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Posted by BayCoastLimited on Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:48 AM
Sadly thats the reason i don't/can't buy them. The brand new/never ran ones are way too expensive off the aftermarket, and the broken/damaged ones are being sold at MSRP+.
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Posted by BayCoastLimited on Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:50 AM

mbinsewi

I have this one, and a set of 4 cars, but I don't have any wires on my lay out, I just had to have it.

It's been sitting a while.  Reveiwed in the Dec. 2005 MRR.

Mike.

 

 

I've seen photos of when Bachmann offered that as part of a set, i think it was called the Noreaster or something like that. Wish i grabbed it when i had the chance. I do have their Acela though so yay go me i guess.

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Posted by rrinker on Thursday, March 26, 2020 9:51 AM

 Just have to watch - they rarely sell for the inflated prices. Anyone can put up an auction with a BiN price, but the thing to check is completed listengs - see what they really sell for. Only thing is you can;t see what was paid on a "best offer", but when it was listed at full MSRP and best offier was accepted, I can only think the buyer offered less.

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Posted by mbinsewi on Thursday, March 26, 2020 11:09 AM

Wow, I just checked out I had on Ebay. Surprise  I forget what I paid, I'd have to dig through the receipts.  I bought the loco and the cars, all seperate, it wasn't a set.

I have to go the Bachmann site and see if I can get couplers, one car is missing one.

Mike.

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Posted by BayCoastLimited on Thursday, March 26, 2020 12:47 PM

mbinsewi

Wow, I just checked out I had on Ebay. Surprise  I forget what I paid, I'd have to dig through the receipts.  I bought the loco and the cars, all seperate, it wasn't a set.

I have to go the Bachmann site and see if I can get couplers, one car is missing one.

Mike.

 

Wouldn't just be better to upgrade to Kadees?

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Posted by mbinsewi on Thursday, March 26, 2020 2:51 PM

I never checked into that.  That shows you how much I run it! 

When I seen what the coupler looked like, I figured it was a Bachmann thing.  I'll have to check and see what Kadee has.

Mike.

PS.  I checked the Kadee site.  The original coupler is a draw bar that clips into each passenger car.

To replace that draw bar, and use couplers, I need #118, and #454.  which can be bought as a set, along with 2 pages of instructions.

Lots of cutting, drilling and fitting.  I think I'll see if I can find the draw bars.  I don't want to cut anything, as I might just sell these.  Not sure.

Here's the Bachmann part I need.  I'll probably go this way.

Thanks for the suggestion!

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Posted by NittanyLion on Thursday, March 26, 2020 3:24 PM

Amtrak, commuter railroads even more, are in a reverse sweet spot where there's just enough demand to drive second hand prices, but low enough that makers don't put them out like F7s or something. 

Also, I think licensing might be a problem. There's a reason Walthers sells Athearn P42s, but no other Athearn products. 

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Posted by BayCoastLimited on Friday, March 27, 2020 9:22 AM

NittanyLion

Amtrak, commuter railroads even more, are in a reverse sweet spot where there's just enough demand to drive second hand prices, but low enough that makers don't put them out like F7s or something. 

Also, I think licensing might be a problem. There's a reason Walthers sells Athearn P42s, but no other Athearn products. 

 

 

Sadly, Thank god Bachmann is making the SC-44 at least

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