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[quote]QUOTE: Originally posted by locomotive10 Dear Trains.com Bretheren, I have a small 4x4 table that I am already bored with... Instead of supprting me and being a good father, he just raised his voice and said "THAT IS HUGE, YOU CAN'T DO THAT. YOU DON'T KNOW HOW." ... Then My dad said, HES JUST 13, HE CAN'T DO IT. ITS SOMETHING THAT CAN'T BE DONE THAT WILL ROT AWAY WHEN HE GETS BORED WITH IT LIKE HE DID WITH HIS SMALL ONE.[V][V][V][V] [/quote] Perhaps you need to learn how to "operate" that small layout. The WISE Division had someone do a presentation on that last year. The same town has two names, depending on which way you come at it. With track warrants and such, it became possible for 2 people to operate a small (4X8) layout that wasn't much more than an oval with a few turnouts. As far as not knowing how, this sounds like a <drum roll> learning experience. Let's see what you can learn: carpentry (rough and finish), electricity, electronics, history, kit building with its myriad of skills required, plastic fabrication, metal fab (if you eventually get into brassbashing or scratchbuilding), etc. etc. And truth be told, you probably will get bored with it in a few years when "girls" becomes your next hobby. Been there, done that. You'll come back to it eventually, if you ever leave it completely. Not all boys do. Methinks dad had a bad day. Rather than butting heads (NEVER productive), ask him why he thinks you can't do it. Let him answer that himself. Don't pressure for an answer right away. Let him think about it. There are probably other issues here and he's going for the simplistic approach that always worked before when you were younger. Another idea is to build the layout around the walls in 2 foot (or narrower) by 4 foot sections. That way it's movable if that ever becomes an issue. Ntrak standards might not be a bad idea, because then you can have your own layout, and still take pieces of it to the Ntrak club (should you decide to join one). Whether you need it or not, find a way to make dad needed. And the others are right. It beats video or computer games for a "hobby".
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