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Fun Consists: 20th Century Chief

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Fun Consists: 20th Century Chief
Posted by The Jet Clipper on Tuesday, September 12, 2017 9:01 PM

So, my mind came up with a new train (and it makes sense, too, slightly). It's called the "20th Century Chief". If you couldn't guess, it's a mix between the Super Chief and 20th Century Limited. It's supposed to be a combo train that pulls the Chief east and the Century west, and I also got a consist;

  • Whatever Head End car I can get
  • 22 roomette sleeper
  • 6-6-4
  • 6-6-4
  • 24-8 Slumbercoach (post 1960)
  • 24-8 Slumbercoach (post 1960)
  • 29 seat lounge dorm
  • Kitchen-Dorm
  • 36 seat Diner
  • 68 seat Diner
  • Pleasure Dome (Chicago - LA; added/lost in Chicago)
  • 4-4-2
  • 10-6
  • 10-6
  • 4-4-2
  • 4-4-2
  • 4-4-2
  • 10-6
  • Creek Observation (NYC-CHI) or Vista Observation (CHI-LA)
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Posted by The Jet Clipper on Tuesday, September 12, 2017 9:01 PM

This is going to be a series, so get ready for some more fictional trains :]

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Posted by marksrailroad on Tuesday, September 12, 2017 10:05 PM

I own both the Super Chief and the 20th Century Limited but so far have never combined them. More power to you brother. Enjoy yourself...

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Posted by gmpullman on Tuesday, September 12, 2017 10:11 PM

The Jet Clipper

Kitchen-Dorm

36 seat Diner

68 seat Diner

 

Perhaps the 68 seat full dining room should be next to the kitchen/dorm?

 

Then I'd recommend placing the second, full diner closer to the tail-end so those Pullman passengers don't have to walk through up to seven cars for a bite to eat?

If I'm not mistaken it takes seven sets of equipment to run a Chicago/LA or San Francisco route (Say, like the California Zephyr) plus two more sets for the Chicago to NYC portion.

Your nineteen-car consist will require at least 171 cars to operate a daily coast-to-coast train! Budd or P-S would sure like to get an order like that.

Ed

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Posted by richhotrain on Wednesday, September 13, 2017 5:01 AM

The Jet Clipper

So, my mind came up with a new train (and it makes sense, too, slightly). It's called the "20th Century Chief". 

Why?

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Wednesday, September 13, 2017 5:42 AM

How many F units does it take to pull a 19 car passenger train?

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If I am not mistaken (which happens all the time), the NYC and ATSF both used F units on passenger trains.

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-Kevin

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Posted by richhotrain on Wednesday, September 13, 2017 6:20 AM

SeeYou190
 

If I am not mistaken (which happens all the time), the NYC and ATSF both used F units on passenger trains. 

NYC used mostly E7s, but some F-units.

http://cs.trains.com/ctr/f/3/t/185928.aspx

Rich

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Posted by tstage on Wednesday, September 13, 2017 6:24 AM

SeeYou190

If I am not mistaken (which happens all the time), the NYC and ATSF both used F units on passenger trains.

-Kevin

The NYC also used E-units for the 20th Century Limited.

Guess I'm a purist.  I don't think "20th Century" and "Super Chief" should be used in the same sentence. Smile, Wink & Grin

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Posted by richhotrain on Wednesday, September 13, 2017 6:28 AM

tstage

Guess I'm a purist.  I don't think "20th Century" and "Super Chief" should be used in the same sentence. Smile, Wink & Grin

Didn't they call it Amtrak?   Laugh

Rich

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Posted by Eric White on Wednesday, September 13, 2017 11:23 AM
Near the end, you might have convinced the PRR to run a Broadway Chief. After all, weren't both trains all-Pullman? The 20th Century added coaches in the '60s, causing the huffy set to swap allegiances.
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Posted by wjstix on Wednesday, September 13, 2017 11:42 AM

IIRC the Santa Fe after WW2 did send a couple of the Chief or Super Chief's streamlined sleepers to New York on the 20th Century every other day. I think it alternated with the Pennsy. One day, the cars were on the 20th Century, next day they'd be on the Broadway Limited.

postscript:

http://old.atsfrr.org/resources/Sandifer/TransconPass/Index.htm

http://archives.chicagotribune.com/1947/01/12/page/19/article/coast-to-coast-sleeping-cars-meet-approval

Stix

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