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Larry - You ***-u-me someone "needs" (wants) these things. Maybe they will need them, but maybe not. For example: I will NOT need an "upgrade", as the Z can handle the size of my proposed layout (the power demand/loco "formulas" I've seen have usually been overly inflated as per the power needs). The Zephyr has jump port capability - my "extra throttle" is my old Athearn power pak. I did buy an extra UT1 ($70) for more control. But again, the number of throttles depends on the individual's case - they may not be needed or even wanted. For the size of my room (a downstairs bedroom), a walk-around or jacks (or radio control) are not needed. And would be rather silly. Then again, others MAY need such things, and that's why when I try when I talk to INDIVIDUALS I try to find out what exact needs they may have and also make a habit of refering them to such web info as the TTX charts/DCC primer. But I still say one can get into DCC without "Mega bucks". I have done so, and that is the example I gave above (forgetting the UT1, which I really didn't have to have but just wanted - mainly to plug in a throttle at a friends house more than to use on my layout). IMHO your posts err too much on the negative aspects of DCC and could be considered as "wrong" as some that you think err on the positive side. I resent that you say I "hide behind a keyboard" and imply that l am lying to people. Who do you think you are to make such a statement ??? This is my last discussion with you on ANY forum. [quote]QUOTE: Originally posted by BRAKIE Sure,Your Zephyr cost less then $200.00 But now mention the hidden cost.Such as needing to upgrade some time in the future due to a bigger and better layout.How about extra throttles? Walk around plug in jacks(if you use them)?And of course that is $25.00 per engine for a decoder. Yeah,Guys I use DCC but I like to tell how it is even face to face-I just don't hide behind a key board like some do.I have always been upfront and honest when ask about a model product,Power Packs or DCC..I had far to many guys asking me all starry eyed about DCC from the write ups in MR and what they have been told by hobby shop owners and DCC flag wavers...Then when I tell them about the hidden costs and some of the problems that *might* pop up including frying a decoder if one is not careful, they have a REAL idea about DCC.I even let them run two of my DCC/Sound equipped locomotives to see what DCC really is and how simple it is to use.. [/quote]
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