Ebay and Pay Pal?

[Anonymous]

I have a premier account! I admit they do Tax me[B)], but it is the price I pay to get immediate payments, soI can spendit faster[:D]! I however do a lot of selling. I suggest if you are only going to do a small amount of selling accept checks or money orders!

[Anonymous]

I feel for the folks that have unjustly gotten negative feedback (I've gotten one from a seller). But whenever I look over a seller I don't expect to see 100%. I then usually go through and lookover the negatives. I check the listing and lo and behold, the buyer that griped about shipping charges obviously didn't read the entire listing as the shipping charge is clearly mentioned. I've also seen negative feedback posted for slow shipping two days after the listing closed! When I see these things next to dozens, or hundreds of positives, I feel pretty good about the seller. Retalitory feedback? Those are pretty obvious. And again, when you see a bunch of positives and a couple of isolated negatives, it's pretty obvious that the ebayer is an OK person.

Also. Somefolks have questioned high shipping/handling charges. Whenever I bid, I take the s/h charge into account as the total price (just as I would sales tax at the store). I believe one reason that sellers sometimes have what appears to be high s/h charges is that ebay's fee is based on a percentage of the sales price, not including s/h. I maybe wrong, but that's how I understood what I read.

[Anonymous]

Deschane,

The E-Bay feedback system is great! I wi***here were something like it for general-market mail order and retail firms. Amazon, BOrders and Barns & Noble have shamelessly copied it and their sites are much better for it. Nobody who does a lot of E-Baying will have a perfect feedback and most regular E-Bayers realize that. Its just the law of numbers and human nature; in fact, I'm amazed that there isn't more unjustified flaming - conventional retailers expect about 1% bad apples / impossible-to-please, E-Bay at least for model stuff is well below that. There is no realistic way for a service like E-Bay to police let alone make judgments on all the feedback. Instead, E-Bay allows responses. The responses along with the ability to check the feedback on those who left negative feedback, IMO make it pretty easy to separate the wheat from the chaff.

[Anonymous]

FundyNorthern,

Forgot to mention in my previous post - its not quite accurate that "those who win more than once can only post one positive." Anyone can post feedback after any transaction, its just that your SCORE reflects only the feedback from unique members. However, in the feedback forum E-Bay also indicates the gross number of feedback posts, and all of those posts are listed.

[Anonymous]

Rails5,
In my case the ratio has been about 3 in 100 are bad apples! This is about what I see in real life, about three folks in 100 don't deserve their share of the oxigen on this planet!

[johncolley]

Another neat thing with PayPal: You can set up a "subscription" and pay smaller payments for a few months...a good way to get that high ticket loco or DCC package...the flip side is you don't get the item until it is paid off. The points are taken on the seller's end so in the long run they may up prices to cover the "bite". As with any other way, spend wisely!

[Anonymous]

No Pay Pal, no sale. If I can't use my CC with it's buyer protection capabilities, I won't buy the item. I use my CC's for nearly everything I purchase everywhere for that protection. As stated earlier, Pay Pal rates aren't high, and most retailers prices reflect all of their costs for doing business. If rent goes up, prices go up. Payroll increase? Raise prices. Credit Card fees are just a part of doing business. I can understand the casual seller not wanting to bother with CC's, but some of these guys have endless listings. If I can't get worry free buying, I will go elsewhere.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by dimastep

Did you read the link I mentioned ?
These problems have nothing to do with technology. PayPal uses the same technology as regular banks do. It is their policies and increasing number of complaints from people. There has been a class-action lawsuit and PayPal lost it.

The lawsuit was 2 years ago. Check the last time that web page was updated. I've been doing business with Ebay and Paypal for 5 years and have never experinced any trouble. Yes you do pay a fee as the seller, but hey, nothing in this world is free. How do you expect them to stay in business? I see the fee as a small price to pay to sell my items. I buy quite a bit so I figure it evens out. You pay sellers fees on ebay so whay should Paypal be different. Also of note, if you choose not to receive credit card payments you can do so. This allows you to collect funds from some ones checking account with no charge to you!

I know there are a lot of old schoolers out there, but come on people its 2004! We should be over the paper money issue by now.

[Anonymous]

I have been buying and selling on E-Bay using PayPal. As a buyer and seller I much prefer to use PayPal. When I buy something, I like to receive it as soon as possible-I usually do with PayPal. As a seller, I prefer PayPal because if someone pays with a money order, usually they will forget to inform me, and by the time I do receive their payment, I have forgotten the details of the sale. Any time a retailer accepts credit cards; they pay for that use. If it didn't more than pay for itself in increased business; they would only take cash--check with your local hobby shop sometime.

[Anonymous]

How can a person who is concerned about many more folks (Pay Pal) having more and more opportunities to loose my money, rip me off, etc. be from the old school? Come on guys, we're all on the computer and know how to use electronics! We all appear to grasp and embrace this electronic age to our own comfort level! If you think your "All that" because you use Pay Pal, and you is an up to the minute guy, get over yourself!

Just because something is new and fast doesn't mean that it is automatically better!

You know what, maybe I am old school. I don't just follow the crowd because you up and comers feel it's the way to go. There is a lot of bad stuff happening out in the real world and so excuse me for watching how my money is spent!

I started this thread by simply asking whom pays the fees for Pay Pal. As appears to be the norm nowadays the discussion has deteriorated and become as polarized as the last election! It's Pay Pal is the best, man, or Pay Pal SUCKS!

This is not the case with all of you and I don't mean to offend anyone. I asked a simple question and I got a complicated answer.

[Allen Jenkins]

I have Paypal logged into my bank account, and buy as such,
Paypal, is cool.
What's about E-Bay?
Sell only to folks you know!

[Anonymous]

Mark,

Funny how on this forum sometimes the most complicated sounding questions get a one sentence answer and a simple question gets paragraph after paragraph! lol

Well, at least you didn't ask the following questions:
What DCC system is best?
Why are things made in China?
Is Kato better than Atlas?
Steam or diesel?

Then you'd see some sparks fly!

Seriously. I think the posts on this thread were interesting in the respect that it gives you a feel what people (your market) think. Some hate paypal. Some like paypal, but only non credit card transactions etc etc. Someday someone should do their PhD thesis on ebayers - what makes them tick. Would be fascinating!!

[Anonymous]

Most answered the question on setting up a PAYPAL account. The seller pays the fees and some good points about PAYPAL is that it is a fast convienent way to make purchases. The fee is about the same of processing a credit card through any other type business. I have used it as a buyer and a seller and like it.

EBay. There's always some great deals available on EBay. Even when the LHS is selling with a buy it now, it's normally below retail. Just five years ago you would be lucky to see 5000 HO items. Today, it's well over 22,000 items at any given moment. Bid wisely, protect your EBay and Pay Pal account information. Also, I notice your selling something. I suppose this forum is also a great way to advertise your item. Good luck.....

[Anonymous]

Austinsdad, Yes, the items mentioned for sale at my Ebay auction on my first post have sold and the auction is over. I have other HO items for sale now. The item number is 5934165826 and again it is three Athearn box cars. This time they are 40 footers, and there is an N.P., G.N. and MKT AAR cars, built in 1937.

However, it seems like a lot of extra work to find something to post, so I can advertise my auctions on this forum. Honestly, Athearn products do not garner much extra scratch, for as much work and as nice as my cars are, so this seems pretty senseless as a method of promoting my auctions. Maybe they don't sell well, because I haven't offered Pay Pal as a method of payment. Also, making my opinions public on what I think of Pay Pal might not be helping, either!