Tichy Ore Cars - Painting

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Isambard

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Tichy Ore Cars - Painting

Posted by Isambard on Thursday, September 2, 2004 5:11 PM

I'm about to tackle my first Tichy ore car. They list two options i.e. paint before assembly or after assembly, also recommending spray brushing.
Comments appreciated on options also on air brushing (spraying?) vs. paint brush. Any other comments on their detailed instructions for assembling welcomed.
Isambard

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 2, 2004 7:00 PM

If you have access to an airbrush, why would you consider any other method? Imagine hand brushing all of those end details, the underframe - it would take forever and could produce an uneven coating of paint. Assemble the car and spray it if you can, less trucks and couplers that is.

Good luck!

BB also in Canada, eh?

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Isambard

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Posted by Isambard on Thursday, September 2, 2004 7:11 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by FundyNorthern

If you have access to an airbrush, why would you consider any other method? Imagine hand brushing all of those end details, the underframe - it would take forever and could produce an uneven coating of paint. Assemble the car and spray it if you can, less trucks and couplers that is.

Good luck!

BB also in Canada, eh?

BB meaning Brigitte Bardot, small buckshot-like pellet, Better Buy, Big Boo's or--?
Thanks for the thoughts.
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Posted by orsonroy on Thursday, September 2, 2004 11:11 PM

Funny you should mention the Tichy ore cars: I just finished assembling and painting (but not decalling) two for a client. As with any rolling stock kit, I airbrushed the cars after I finished assembling them. I use Polly Scale paints for all my painting. The cars got sprayed Rail Tie Brown on the inside, grimy black on the outside, and finally received a wash of black on the inside. Once the cars are lettered, I'll add a medium-heavy weathering treatment to them, and finally hit 'em with Dullcote.

Anyone know what color copper ore is? These cars are destined for the Copper Range RR, and I need to make sure my weathering colors are right!

Ray Breyer

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 3, 2004 5:39 AM

BB meaning Brigitte Bardot, small buckshot-like pellet, Better Buy, Big Boo's or--?
Thanks for the thoughts.
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BB = Bob Boudreau [8D]

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Isambard

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Posted by Isambard on Friday, September 3, 2004 7:34 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by FundyNorthern

BB meaning Brigitte Bardot, small buckshot-like pellet, Better Buy, Big Boo's or--?
Thanks for the thoughts.
[:D]

BB = Bob Boudreau [8D]

Bob:
Obviously my brain cells were not working yesterday. Must have been watching too much of the Republican convention, rather than sticking to modelling!!
And in Canada eh? Pity!
Isambard
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Isambard

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Posted by Isambard on Friday, September 3, 2004 7:51 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by orsonroy

Anyone know what color copper ore is? These cars are destined for the Copper Range RR, and I need to make sure my weathering colors are right!

Ray: Have a look at the photos of copper ore working surfaces shown in this link http://www.rhosybolbach.freeserve.co.uk/brzmine.htm , i.e.raw copper ore appears as mixture of coppery green (verdigris) and grey mixed with other shades and colours. Think of old copper roofs or pennies. Sintered copper ore would something else but can't remember what.
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Isambard

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Posted by Isambard on Saturday, September 11, 2004 1:06 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by Isambard

QUOTE: Originally posted by orsonroy

Anyone know what color copper ore is? These cars are destined for the Copper Range RR, and I need to make sure my weathering colors are right!

Ray: Have a look at the photos of copper ore working surfaces shown in this link http://www.rhosybolbach.freeserve.co.uk/brzmine.htm , i.e.raw copper ore appears as mixture of coppery green (verdigris) and grey mixed with other shades and colours. Think of old copper roofs or pennies. Sintered copper ore would something else but can't remember what.
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Isambard

Ray, or anyone:
When loaded to its weight capacity, how high in the ore car is the top level of an ore load and how high for a coal load? What did you use for an ore load, either pre-or post crushing? Size of ore chunks?

Here's an update on my progress with my first Tichy ore cars:
Having completed the assembly of the two ore cars I decided to hand paint with a brush. It took about an hour per car, due to all those different surfaces and difficult to get-at places, but I'm pleased with the results. I used a Number 2 artist's brush and Pollyscale paints - Box Car Red on the sides, ends and bottom, Dirt inside and Grimy Black on the trucks and wheels (except for the treads).
The cars already have a nice slightly weathered appearance. I've applied numbers and lettering decals - "KCM" for Kingdom Copper Mines, which is located on a Grizzly Northern branch line. The final step will be a bit of deliberate weathering and dull coating and the cars will then be put to work!

The most difficult part of assembling the kits was to put on the journal box covers, which are the size of grains of rice. After trying several ways to handle a properly oriented cover, the truck side frame, the liquid cement, the applicator and my fingers all at the same time, I ended up dabbing a bit of Testor's (airplane) cement on the journal box, then picking up the cover with a wet finger tip and sticking it on the cemented spot. Not elegant but it worked. I was prepared to go without the covers if all else failed.

I'm looking forward to building a number more of the ore cars, for the KCM, and for the Brunel Coal Mines, also on the GNR's branch line. But in the meantime there are an Intermountain box car and a Red Caboose box car to be done.

Isambard
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Isambard

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Posted by Isambard on Thursday, September 16, 2004 3:12 PM

Here's an update on my progress with my first Tichy ore cars:
Having completed the assembly of the two ore cars I decided to hand paint with a brush. It took about an hour per car, due to all those different surfaces and difficult to get-at places, but I'm pleased with the results. I used a Number 2 artist's brush and Pollyscale paints - Box Car Red on the sides, ends and bottom, Dirt inside and Grimy Black on the trucks and wheels (except for the treads).
The cars already have a nice slightly weathered appearance. I've applied numbers and lettering decals - "KCM" for Kingdom Copper Mines, which is located on a Grizzly Northern branch line. The final step will be a bit of deliberate weathering and dull coating and the cars will then be put to work!

The most difficult part of assembling the kits was to put on the journal box covers, which are the size of grains of rice. After trying several ways to handle a properly oriented cover, the truck side frame, the liquid cement, the applicator and my fingers all at the same time, I ended up dabbing a bit of Testor's (airplane) cement on the journal box, then picking up the cover with a wet finger tip and sticking it on the cemented spot. Not elegant but it worked. I was prepared to go without the covers if all else failed.

I'm looking forward to building a number more of the ore cars, for the KCM, and for the Brunel Coal Mines, also on the GNR's branch line. But in the meantime there are an Intermountain box car and a Red Caboose box car to be done.

Isambard
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As a P.S. to my Sept 11 '04 posting above, I've found that the positioning of each brake hanger on the spring board is very critical. If not positioned perfectly the brake drags on the wheel, since the clearance, when installed correctly, is so small. Having discovered this on one of my two cars I had to cut the brake hangers off since they were firmly bonded on and I couldn't correct. I'll probably not install the brakes on my next cars, to avoid more problems, they are a nice detail but not highly visible.

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Isambard

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