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[quote]QUOTE: Originally posted by MAbruce [quote]QUOTE: Originally posted by rda1964 ACL Fan is catching considerable flak for stating a correct position. Name calling him won't improve the counterargument. Trespass is illegal, setting a scoff-law example for children is worse. Defending trespass as the moral equal of a "speed-trap" won't fly. The area was admittedly known to be railroad property and well posted. I wonder what turn the dialog will take when one or more children argue: "What I did was no worse than railfanning trespass"? Bottom line: Confine railfanning to public property and do it safely. Randy [/quote] I’m going to set aside my “stay away from these kinds of threads” policy and chime in here because I think this is a serious safety issue. Many here don’t seem to like ACL Fan, but the issue being discussed is trespassing on RR property in order to railfan. I’m not going to judge how ACL Fan may be treating the younger people on this forum, but the position he states is correct. Also, what Randy said is 110 percent correct. Period. This is more than obeying a law, trespassing being illegal, and not showing any respect for other peoples property. It’s about safety and understanding the times we live in. Things are not going to be the same anymore. All that changed on 9/11. You may not like the railroads, the RR police, Ashcroft, the president, or whatever. So couldn’t we just respect the laws to honor the thousands of people who have already sacrificed their lives in this war? [/quote] Look, hahaha, this is going ot be good... Your postion or opinion is IRRELEVANT if you have the incapability to state it properly.. (note Your doesn't mean You or him, means "Everyone indirectly") How yould you like it in my opinion, If i dissed you up about 25 times? you'd be Fruiated! Look telling someone, Well i don't like Tresspassing is not the smartest Idea, is one thing, But adding, I hope you get arrested and I hope your wife finds out..or whatever he wrote, is not necesary, it deviates form the fact, it is NOT going to discourage tresspassing, and it only Builds up resentment. Thte fact the ACL fan tormented, and threatened various Teenagers on this forum, is NOT irrelevant, as a matter of fact, If we can't function as a proper society, this entire forum concept goes down the Toilet. I don't know where your from, but where i'm from, For an adult to be threatening a teenager is a serious offence. But just because it is over the interent and we can't see his face that makes it in your terms socially acceptable? We are now looking at bigger socail issues, and the fact, that ACL fan seems to have an inability ot properly state how he feels without putting soemone down. There is somehting seriously wrong with that. That is what we are debating now, And it is a seriosu issue, and Can not be put on the back burner. If Fully Grown mature Adults can get away with speaking to Children in such as what we have seen that illustrates a complete Failure of bystanders and Society as a person to do play there roles properly. I know for one, I won't sit back and wathc this, Although i don't know many people here, My instincs are to protect anyone from threats such as him. Perhaps no one can grasp how serious this is, but imagine the same situation took place in a public park.. The police would ahve been involved for sure.
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