Whats missing Buchmann

[Budliner]

hey I just got a brand new W&L,E 2-6-6-2 and its got no smoke is the smoke a problem on newer DCC systems or is it left out for price constraints



I like the smoke on my at&sf 2-8-0
enyone got a new motive power with smoke


what else is missing

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[Eriediamond]

Budliner, lack of smoke means one of two things. Either the fire's gone out or its burning efficiently. for smoke, shovel more coal. [:O][(-D] Seriuosely, I'm not famliar the the Bachmann 2-6-6-2 loco, but my opinion is that most modellers prefer non smokeing engines as engines with smoke units don't look realistic and don't like the oily mess they make. Also I would think that the oily residue in time would raise havoc with the the DCC electronics in those locos. Just an opinion.

[Anonymous]

Well, does it have a smoke genarator in it? My Spectrum steamer doesn't have a smoke genarator, but my Bachmann does.

[cacole]

Most models do not have smoke generators in them, especially the plastic models because the smoke generators get so hot they can melt the plastic if they get misaligned. Cost is probably a factor, too, considering the price of a Seuth smoke unit to add to a locomotive. I recently installed a DCC decoder into a Bachmann Daylight locomotive that had a smoke generator, and I'll never try that again. Most HO-gauge smoke units do not look very realistic in operation, either. Real locomotives belched thick clouds of black smoke, not lights whiffs like models do. Someone wrote in another thread a few months ago about the problem with smoke liquid leaving an oily film on his layout, and some people don't particularly like the smell of the liquid smoke used in models.

[Anonymous]

I remember YEARS ago a friend of mine got a good deal on a Spectrum Pacific that had been a return to a hobby shop. Someone had kept trying to put smoke fluid in the stack - but it had to smoke unit.

So, he got a good deal on a nice engine - that was all oily. I cleaned it up for him. Worked fine.

I thought that the smoke units were on the cheaper engines (read: Bachmann) because the toy-train crowd that goes for cheaper engines wants the smoke effect.

Conversely, the more expensive units (Spectrum) don't have the smoke units because the modelers more interested in realism know that there is no way a smoke unit can scale down the smoke you see from a real steam engine.

The above is NOT my opinion - just something I read years ago.

Personally, I don't think the smoke looks right - there's not enough. If there WAS enough, the layout room would be filled in no time!

Rob

[Anonymous]

And then you'd have the fire brigade around all the time soaking your layout and making you wonder if this is the reward you get for paying you taxes!

[Budliner]

well thank you folks
also can you add sound in the engin if you run DC
but the units are DCC ready ?????
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[Anonymous]

I guess you somehow could add sound to an engine running on DC. BLI does it, but I don't know how.

[Eriediamond]

Budliner, as far as I know you can add sound to a steam engine. I remember an artical in magazine ounce, it had a square cam on a drive axle so it gave a "chug" every quarter revolution. I don't know about a diesel though.

[cacole]

SoundTraxx makes sound decoders for both steam and diesels. Broadway Limited uses QSI sound decoders, which produce sound on DC as well as DCC. The Lionel HO scale Challenger also uses the QSI sound system. SoundTraxx is working on development of a new sound system called the Tsunami that will operate on both DC and DCC. The price differential between SoundTraxx and QSI is something else. SoundTraxx decoders cost a little over $100, and QSI is over $250.

[Budliner]

QUOTE: Originally posted by cacole

something else. SoundTraxx decoders cost a little over $100, and QSI is over $250.

ouch [xx(]

[Roadtrp]

Get yourself a moderately talented 3-year-old, and he/she will supply the sounds for free! [^]

Of course the other expenses associated with your little soundmaker will run at least a Quarter of a Million Dollars... but what the heck? No one has LIVED until they've made that type of investment and then heard the golden teenage tones of "I HATE YOU!!!". [:(!]

But not to worry. Assuming you haven't cut off communication, they generally want to regain the old family ties somewhere between 18 and 25. (Depending on how much money they need and when...) [:D]

Edited to add:

P.S. I hope the teens here don't think I am bad-mouthing teenagers. My comments are made with a wink of the eye... they are not entirely serious. After going through the teenage years with my two children I do think we all, teens and parents, need to try to take it a little easier on each other.

It is a tough time for both the teens and the parents, but things will work out in a fairly short time if you just keep trying to communicate with each other. I learned a lot from my first teenaged kid, which made it a lot easier for the second teenaged kid. Too bad the first teenager has to go through the struggle of breaking the parents in... [;)]

[Eriediamond]

[#ditto] to Roadtrp. I know I'm off topic here, but have to add to roadtrp's reply that my daughter sometimes confides in me about problems with raising my grandkids and I find my self constantly reminding her of someone else that did the same things. Her normal reply is "I wasn't like that". [(-D][(-D][(-D] Yup! What goes around, comes around so they say. Also thanks cacole, I must still be living back in the 60-70's not to the think of the modern electonics you mentioned. [:D][:D]

[Budliner]

well I got a loco rso atest z it had a smoker and the wire just crumpled and fell off that dident last to long but still was cool when it was working wow I had to open it the gears needed attention


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