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If you have a Walthers reference book, go to the HO scale coupler conversion list, Bachmann Spectrum, rolling stock. In part it states, Passenger Cars(non Obs)#27 without reference to production date. What you can also do is go to the www.kadee.com site, scroll down to Company infor, click on contact infor, click on e-mail, and their response form pops up. Send it to the attention of Sam Clarke, coupler conversion specialist and give him the car specifics. They are on Oregon time and should reply 24-48 busness hours. This is what Sam gets paid for.
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