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Changing horn CV on LokSound V5 decoder

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Changing horn CV on LokSound V5 decoder
Posted by cats think well of me on Sunday, October 23, 2022 11:13 PM

Hi all,

I recently put a LokSound V5 21-pin decoder into a Bowser RS-3. I could change the address from 3 to road number, and I reduced the main volume without problem. However, I tried changing the airhorn CV from the stock one to a Nathan M3 with no luck. I'd go to CV48 on programming track mode, and try changing value from 000 to 9, or 13, or add value of 64 for fast bell, and than add the horn CV number from 9 or 13, or 73 to 77 and had no luck. CV48 still stays at 000. I'm using an NCE Procab system and had no trouble changing the airhorn CV on another Bowser RS3 with a LokSound V5. The latter had the decoder installed at the factory. I've also tried cycling power. Neither model has a capacitor. 

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Posted by BATMAN on Monday, October 24, 2022 12:28 AM

My latest Rapido engine had a Loksound 5 in it. Some things I could program others I could not. I contacted Loksound and they said it sounded like a bad decoder so I sent it to Rapido and they confirmed it was a dud and replaced it. 

I would contact Loksound before spending too much time on it.

Brent

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Posted by wrench567 on Monday, October 24, 2022 9:09 AM

   Alvie.

 Do you have the sound set number and what exactly are you trying to program in? Any windows computer is capable of running the Loksound programmer software without the programmer. It will give you a list of changed CVs that you can manually program in with your ProCab.

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Posted by wjstix on Monday, October 24, 2022 9:18 AM

It's been a while since I've done it, but it seems to me I ran into the same problem. It's like when you program a blank decoder with a LokProgrammer, you can't change settings using CVs like you can with a factory installed Loksound decoder for some reason. IIRC I ended up going back into the LokProgrammer and made the changes there, then rewrote everything to the decoder.

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Posted by Mark R. on Monday, October 24, 2022 9:23 AM

On Loksound 5 decoders, changing the horn uses CV163. Loksound 4 and Select decoders used CV48 to change the horn.

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Posted by wrench567 on Monday, October 24, 2022 10:34 AM

[quote user="Mark R."]

On Loksound 5 decoders, changing the horn uses CV163. Loksound 4 and Select decoders used CV48 to change the horn.

Mark.

 

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  I think Mark is correct. Also this is an indexed CV..

      Pete.

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Posted by Mark R. on Monday, October 24, 2022 5:20 PM

wrench567

 

  I think Mark is correct. Also this is an indexed CV..

      Pete.

 

CV163 is not an indexed CV. Indexed CV start with base CV values higher than 256.

Mark. 

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Posted by wrench567 on Monday, October 24, 2022 5:59 PM

   Mark.

 I stand corrected. I have a programmer so I really don't worry about what CVs.

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Posted by NVSRR on Monday, October 24, 2022 7:12 PM

I recently did a 21 pin loksound install on an sw9  (pic for those that remeber)   I found I had to upgrade the dcc software to do anything with it.  similar issues to what you have.   your prolem might be the same.  

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Posted by cats think well of me on Tuesday, October 25, 2022 11:15 AM

Hi all,

Thank you for the responses. Changing CV163 did the trick but I had to go through several values to get the right air horn. But it's done! I now have two Bowser RS-3s in Boston & Maine to run together. 

Alvie H

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Posted by wolf10851 on Sunday, December 11, 2022 6:50 PM

It really is worth it to invest in the lokprogrammer.  It really makes it easy to change all the settings on the decoder and you can even add custom sounds into your decoder as well.  I have a train that I only run at christmas time and I have added christmas music to that decoder

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