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DCC Specialties Frog-AR "Rev-B" not working

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DCC Specialties Frog-AR "Rev-B" not working
Posted by gregc on Monday, April 19, 2021 1:28 PM
creating this thrad because rich asked about it in another thread

richhotrain
gregc

(that reminds me that i need to call Tony's Trains because a brand new AR isn't working the way i expect)  

How is it not working the way you expect?

 
trying to install a 2nd  DCC Specialties Frog-AR Quad Output Frog Auto-Reverser being use to control 2 reversing sections, same as the first one.   first one worked last time i checked
 
no track power  because the same voltage (i.e. DCC phase is on both outputs frog 1&2
 
we soldered jumpers across J904 pins 1&2 and 3&4 so that each pair of frogs are used as an AR
 
we also soldered jumper across pins 1&2 J101-J801 to configure all circuits for 2A
 
when connected to both AR sections, the LED was lit, presumably indicating a short.   disconnecting the connects to frogs 3&4 cleared that fault and i believe a track section may not be isolated.    i believe this can be ignored for now with no connections to frogs 3&4
 
i measured 11+V between  J901 pin2, and J903 pins 1&2.     i believe 11V should be between only one J903 pins 1 or 2.
 
i also tried shorting across the gap at the end of the reversing section while measuring 11V on that track.    i think i saw the voltage drop, but it returned to 11V when the short was removed
 
my next step would be to cut the jumpers on J101-801  but doubt this should fix the problem
 
i've emailed tony's trains but haven't heard back from them (they're not taking calls due to covid)
 
appreciate any suggestions

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Posted by richhotrain on Tuesday, April 20, 2021 9:30 AM

Wow, this is well above my pay grade, but I will watch for replies with interest.

Rich

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Posted by gregc on Tuesday, May 4, 2021 4:51 PM

apparently we installed it improperly because it is a rev-B board and needs to be configured differently with jumpers

we installed it the same way as the other board being used, apparently a rev-A board, as two ARs configued for 2A

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Posted by richhotrain on Wednesday, May 5, 2021 5:35 AM

gregc

apparently we installed it improperly because it is a rev-B board and needs to be configured differently with jumpers

we installed it the same way as the other board being used, apparently a rev-A board, as two ARs configued for 2A 

greg, glad to learn that you got that resolved.

Thanks for the update post.

Rich

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Posted by gregc on Saturday, May 8, 2021 4:21 AM

apparently, the Frog-AR Rev-B board can be configured to operate as 4 circuit breakers when jumpered the same way the Rev-A board is jumpered as 2 ARs

a 2nd Frog-AR board was purchased for use as 2 ARs just as the 1st board was.   it appears the Rev-A is no longer available

we exchanged some emails, were told to make some measurements and sent them a picture of the board and were finally told to return it.

the confusion cost time and money

greg - Philadelphia & Reading / Reading

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