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Doodlebug decoder project

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Posted by Trainman440 on Wednesday, March 17, 2021 5:16 PM

HVBL

Just a follow up to the doodlebug upgrade. The parts I ordered from NWSL arrived a few weeks ago and the upgrade was seemless. The bug runs fantastic now and even somewhat quieter. I wish my Dad was still around to see this thing go!! Well worth the money spent.

Rich

 

That's great news! NWSL stuff is expensive but should last a lifetime. 

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Posted by HVBL on Saturday, March 13, 2021 5:02 AM

Just a follow up to the doodlebug upgrade. The parts I ordered from NWSL arrived a few weeks ago and the upgrade was seemless. The bug runs fantastic now and even somewhat quieter. I wish my Dad was still around to see this thing go!! Well worth the money spent.

Rich

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Posted by HVBL on Saturday, January 9, 2021 10:22 AM

I wish I would have checked out Paul's video sooner. Nice looking bug! I went ahead and ordered the replacement wheelset from NWSL for 50 bucks. I hope to see it before springtime arrives, but that's up to the folks at USPS.

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Posted by jjdamnit on Wednesday, January 6, 2021 1:19 PM

Hello All,

I too have a Bachmann Spectrum Doodlebug- -DC only.

When I bought it was with the intention of converting it to DCC.

Unfortunately, when I removed the shell I found there was no place to fit a decoder.

I don't run sound so fitting a speaker is not an issue. Fitting a decoder will require milling out the frame.

Good luck, keep us informed on your progress, and...

Hope this helps.

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Posted by rrinker on Wednesday, January 6, 2021 8:05 AM

 The Goose engine sound would be good for one that hasn't been converted to diesel. Check some of the Euro projects for small diesels of the sort that would have been used in re-motoring some. The small doodblebug at the Strasburg RR was converted to diesel, I think it's a small Deutz motor. 

 Allentown and Auburn has an ex-PRR Brill car similar to the Bachmann model that the PRR re-engined with a Hamilton diesel engine (after riding this car, I don;t remember if it still has that same diesel or if it's been replaced).

 Pretty much any small industrial diesel sound could be used - really the main engine sound of most 4 stroke diesels is very similar. Only the Detroit/EMD 2 strokes are VERY unique and different from anything else. And the FM opposed piston motors, but you won't find something that big in a motor car.

 If there's a way to turn off the second motor in the dual motor 44-tonner sound, that would be a reasonable size diesel to find in a doodlebug.

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Posted by Overmod on Wednesday, January 6, 2021 5:16 AM

peahrens
I hard wired a LokSound Select decoder and loaded a Baldwin VO-6 sound file.  I no longer remember why that seemed ok, maybe just because it was an old, small diesel (I think some doodlebugs perhaps were changed to diesel).

The Baldwin (De La Vergne) VO was a tugboat engine, probably far too heavy for any doodlebug.  Having said that, the sound is probably reasonable for how one of the things would be driven...

Aren't there historical recordings of historic gas and distillate engines as well as operable cars? A reference like Keilty would have the specific diesel-engine type for many repowers...

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Posted by peahrens on Tuesday, January 5, 2021 7:57 PM

I bought a used one some time ago, which came (not unexpected) with cracked gears.  After discussing options with NWSL, I decided (don't remember why) on the NWSL Stanton drive kit #1171-4 which replaces both trucks. I hard wired a LokSound Select decoder and loaded a Baldwin VO-6 sound file.  I no longer remember why that seemed ok, maybe just because it was an old, small diesel (I think some doodlebugs perhaps were changed to diesel).   

Here is a short video:

https://youtu.be/bMQZ44inZkA

 

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Posted by HVBL on Tuesday, January 5, 2021 7:34 PM

NWSL has the goods. I might be able to fix a few in my Pop's collection now...

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Posted by HVBL on Tuesday, January 5, 2021 7:19 PM

rrinker

 Pretty sure the Bachmann Philly address is little more than a business office any more. 40 minutes from Philly? You could be near me, dependin on how fast you drive and if you are considering traffic - can take me anywhere from 45 minutes to 3 hours to get to Philly.

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I'm just up the road in Bucks County. On a good day I can hop 95 south and hit the bridge exits in 30 minutes. Rush hour, forget it. All bets are off, lol. Bachman parts dept emailed me back anyways, it's a discontinued item, no luck. I'll try one of the links above.

Rich

 

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Sunday, January 3, 2021 8:50 PM

I've thought of getting an HO scale doodlebug but would want to install sound.  Does anyone make such a decoder?

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Posted by mbinsewi on Sunday, January 3, 2021 1:29 PM
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Posted by rrinker on Sunday, January 3, 2021 1:12 PM

 Pretty sure the Bachmann Philly address is little more than a business office any more. 40 minutes from Philly? You could be near me, dependin on how fast you drive and if you are considering traffic - can take me anywhere from 45 minutes to 3 hours to get to Philly.

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Posted by HVBL on Sunday, January 3, 2021 2:35 AM

I've been all over EBAY but no luck looking for Bachman parts so I sent an email to the parts dept at Bachman. I live about 40 minutes from them so a ride into Philly is no big deal if they have anything in stock. Shapeways appeared to be a CNC manufacturing facility which is what I do and that gave me another idea. 

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Posted by richg1998 on Saturday, January 2, 2021 3:51 PM

Last time I looked it was only N scale. I will try to look again.

Maybe NWSL.

Try a search but search for HO scale.

Rich

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Posted by jrbernier on Friday, January 1, 2021 4:10 PM

Check out Shapeways for 3D printed replacements...

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Posted by HVBL on Friday, January 1, 2021 3:53 PM

Well, after a quick test run I realized we had a slight issue. I also checked my stash of decoders and found an 8 pin DP2X. My project came to a crash when I found this...

Thanks for the replies. 

Rich

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Posted by CGW103 on Friday, January 1, 2021 2:31 PM

I have a couple of doodlebugs and have sold a few more. All of the ones I have had have had an 8 pin plug Makes it easy. All of mine have made gear noise as well.

 

 

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Posted by gmpullman on Friday, January 1, 2021 2:25 PM

Here's one suggestion:

https://tcsdcc.com/installation/ho-scale/1235

Good Luck, Ed

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Doodlebug decoder project
Posted by HVBL on Friday, January 1, 2021 1:30 PM

I have a Spectrum Doodlebug that I am going to tear into this weekend. It seems to run fine in DC with a little bit of motor or gear noise but I figured since I have it apart, I would install a decoder. Anyone have a suggestion? I was going to use a simple Digitrax like a 123 or 126 piece. Is there a specific one for the Doodlebug ??

Rich

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