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Kato/Atlas U25B starts and stops then does not run and CV8 value reads NoPg

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Posted by c&oj3a604 on Monday, September 14, 2020 4:31 PM

 First off Thank You for Help


  What I did was to dissemble the locomotive frame, remove the decoder from the mounting tabs, remove all the existing kapton tape from locomotive frame and motor tabs. Then I proceeded to clean up the locomotive frame of oil and grease. Mounted New Kapton tape on the frame in the locations of where the decoder wires came up from the locomotive, placed kapton tape on the top and sides of the frame wher the decoder wires ran between the two decoder tabs and finally placed kapton tape on the motor tabs as well along side of the motor to keep the motor wires from moving. Then proceeded to re-assemble the locomotive and re-installed the decoder.

  I placed the locomotive on the programming track was able to reset the decoder to factory settings. The decoder accepted the factory reset, therefore I operated the locomotive with the factory address of 3 on the yard track with no problems. So return the locomotive to programming track and programmed into the locomotive the four digit address (locomotive number). From there the locomotive operates fine on the railroad.

 From now on I will make sure the locomotive frame half are insulated properly with kapton tape.

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Posted by c&oj3a604 on Monday, September 14, 2020 4:30 PM
Randy, The programing track is actually part of the main rail yard switching lead. There are gaps cut in the switch lead and these gaps are filled with strip syrene (spelling), glued in place and cut to match the rail profile. Thank You for Your help
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Posted by wjstix on Monday, September 14, 2020 1:16 PM

The actions of the engine - starting, stopping, starting etc. sounds like what happens when the engine is a trailing unit in a consist and you're trying to run it with it's own ID number. That could be why you're having trouble with the CVs too, as some decoders / systems won't let you read or change CVs to an engine in a consist unless it's the lead engine.

Maybe go into your DCC system and clear out all the consists and see what happens?

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Posted by rrinker on Sunday, September 13, 2020 6:55 PM

 4 beeps is a short. Something is shorting out - could be the main track, could be the program track. How is your program track set up? Is it a completely separate piece of track, not physically connected to the main, or is it a siding with gaps? Bet the gaps closed up if it is.

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Kato/Atlas U25B starts and stops then does not run and CV8 value reads NoPg
Posted by c&oj3a604 on Sunday, September 13, 2020 4:55 PM

  I have a N scale Atlas/Kato U25B-IIb which has idle for 3 months on My large Yard and today I wanted to run the locomotive and was less than successful.   The locomotive would run forward then stall then run forward again and then stall.  This same process happen when I ran the locomotive in the reverse direction.  I could hear the motor buzzing when it sat on the track. The Locomotive has TCS CN-GP hardwired in. I use the digitrax DCC system (5A Super Chief with DCS100 command station with a DT400 throttle).
  So I placed the locomotive on the programming track and the command station beeped 4 times. I then went into programming mode on the the throttle to read the CV values to set what is happening. The First CV value I read was the CV8. The display should have read CV8=153 for TCS decoder, But instead it displayed CV8=NoPG.  So I left the locomotive on the programming track and switched off the programming track and successfully operated other locomotives that have sat on the yards tracks for the same amount of time.  As frustrated as I am I decided to shut down the DCC system and walk away for a few hours.
  I came about 2 hours later powered up the the DCC system . The N scale Atlas/Kato U25B-IIb  locomotive I left on the programming track was moved over to Yard track and the programming track shut down, entered the 4 digit address of the locomotive into the Digitrax DT400 throttle and the locomotive ran in the forward direction and the reverse direction 3 times each then just shut down.  Therefore I moved the Locomotive to the programing track, switched on power to the programming track and immediately the DCS 100 Command station beep four times. I went to programming mode on the throttle to read the CV values.  I tried to read the CV8 value again and received the display answer CV8=NoPg. Therfore I shut the system down and removed the locomotive to My work bench.
  I am frustrated at this point, Therefore I turned to Digitrax  support page to search for an answer, but that was futile!
  I would greatly appreciate any Help.  Thank You.

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