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AR1 versus PM42

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Posted by starman on Friday, July 3, 2020 11:58 AM

Thanks for all the replies.  I appreciate the information.

 

Jack

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Posted by starman on Saturday, June 27, 2020 3:02 PM

Opps!  I got he BXP88 and the BXPA1 mixed up.

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Posted by Stevert on Friday, June 26, 2020 8:45 AM

As Randy mentioned, the BXP88 has eight power manager/detection/transponding section sections, but it's not an auto-reverser.

That's what the BXPA1 does (and why I got two to replace my two AR1's). They are single-section power manager/detection/transponding/auto-reversing devices.

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Posted by rrinker on Friday, June 26, 2020 8:21 AM

 The BXP88 does not do reverse loops, it is strictly a circuit breaker and block detector.

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Posted by starman on Friday, June 26, 2020 8:06 AM

Thanks  for the replies.  Stevert, how many reversing loops will a BXP88 control?

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Posted by Stevert on Thursday, June 25, 2020 10:11 PM

Actually, the AR1 and the PM42 are both relay-based, and they both can work quite well.**

I think the AR1 is slightly better as an auto-reverser because the trip current is infinitely variable via the adjustment pot, whereas the PM42 has a number of fixed trip currents to choose from.

The guidance is to not have a PM42 power manager section feeding another section on the same PM42 set up as an auto-reverser. But you can certainly mix section types on the same PM42 as long as you follow that guidance.

**I formerly used a PM42 and two AR1's on my layout, and replaced them with a BXP88 and two BXPA1's only because it was a less-expensive route to eventually add detection/signaling (there's another BXP88 in the works).  But they worked fine, even with my roster of all sound-equipped locos.

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Thursday, June 25, 2020 8:48 PM

I believe the AR1 is a relay-based system while the PM42 is solid state.  The PM42 is faster.

For a simple reverse loop, though, you probably wouldn't notice the difference.

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AR1 versus PM42
Posted by starman on Thursday, June 25, 2020 8:21 PM
I have two, and may develop a third, reversing loops.  Three AR1s cost about the same as a PM42.  I know that a PM42 can be used to detect short circuits or be used as an auto reverser.  I have been told by several people that you should not do both on the same PM42.  Is there an advantage of one over the other for controlling reversing loops?  Thanks,
Jack

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