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Have a transformer that makes the motor have a large humm

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Posted by Redvdub1 on Wednesday, April 29, 2020 1:21 PM

ok..an MRC2500.  They have a pulse switch.  Did you notice the hum on both pulse switch settings?  (on or off are the settings). 

I "think" (and I invite any corrections..) that pulse "on" means that you are supplying 60 cycle pulsed power (half wave DC) through the whole range of throttle settings. If that assumption is correct  I would expect "hum" at the high throttle settings.  "Off" means that you get "pulse" power only at the low throttle settings and that as you progress the throttle to full power you gradually get filtered full wave 60 cycle DC and no "hum".  

If you get "hum" on both settings something is "wrong" with the non-pulsed setting.  And Melvin Perry's suggestion re electrolytic capacitors is very probable.  Look for the large blue cylinders on the circuit board/s.  They are the electrolytic caps.  Inspect for burn marks at the leads or ruptures on the cylinder surface.  They are easy to solder out and back in.  

Unfortunately, MRC has never provided any circuit diagrams for their hardware and precious few responses to inquiries.   

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Posted by rrebell on Monday, April 27, 2020 2:45 AM

Redvdub1

"transformer"?  What make/part number?   

 

MRC 2500

 

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Posted by Redvdub1 on Saturday, April 25, 2020 1:35 PM

"transformer"?  What make/part number?   

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Posted by qwerty99 on Friday, April 24, 2020 2:43 AM
Found this which may help you https://www.electricaldeck.com/2020/03/starting-of-three-phase-induction-motor.html
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Posted by rrebell on Wednesday, April 1, 2020 10:32 PM

Transformer works great, just produces humm, not engine either.

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Posted by BigDaddy on Wednesday, April 1, 2020 5:31 PM

gregc
this came up a while ago -- MRC DC throttle - zero setting (http://cs.trains.com/mrr/f/744/p/276542/3157945.aspx#3158157).  The 2500 generates PWM at 60 Hz which will cause some motor/frames to vibrate

That thread says it needs a torx security bit, the screw has a center pin.

Making it clickable

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Posted by gregc on Wednesday, April 1, 2020 5:25 PM

rrebell
MRC  2500

 

this came up a while ago -- MRC DC throttle - zero setting (http://cs.trains.com/mrr/f/744/p/276542/3157945.aspx#3158157).  The 2500 generates PWM at 60 Hz which will cause some motor/frames to vibrate

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Posted by BigDaddy on Wednesday, April 1, 2020 4:16 PM

I think we decided you need a torx screwdriver to crack the case.  There are pictures of another MRC in the electrical forum.

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Posted by RR_Mel on Wednesday, April 1, 2020 3:15 PM

If it’s an older unit a capacitor most likely crapped out.
 
There is a large cap under the PC board that filters out the AC ripple.  It might be showing some leakage.
 
The only picture I have is the one below, the cap is under the board on the top.  I should have taken more pictures while I had it apart.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Posted by rrebell on Wednesday, April 1, 2020 2:51 PM

Thought of that, and no it was off, redxid it several times just to make sure it wasn't stuck.

 

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Posted by RR_Mel on Wednesday, April 1, 2020 12:59 PM

Is the momentum switch on?  If so turn it off and see if that makes a difference.
 
 
 
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Have a transformer that makes the motor have a large humm
Posted by rrebell on Wednesday, April 1, 2020 12:48 PM

Have a transformer that make engine motors humm loadly. I know it is the transformer because I have an identical one that dose not cause this. MRC  2500

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