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Atlas RS1 to sound

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Posted by richg1998 on Thursday, March 5, 2020 9:14 PM

https://tcsdcc.com/installation/ho-scale/629

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Probably already posted.

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Posted by Mark R. on Thursday, March 5, 2020 7:00 PM

The RS1 (and RS3) don't have much room to start with. You would be MUCH better off replacing the factory board altogether and use the "Atlas board style" that most all manufacturers produce. Takes up no more room than the factory board you will be removing. Putting an 8-pin decoder on top of the factory board may cause clearance issues under that low hood.

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Posted by AlienKing on Thursday, March 5, 2020 3:35 PM

It's probably easier to just get something like a TSU-PNP and replace the factory lightboard completely.  

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Posted by rrinker on Monday, March 2, 2020 5:44 PM

 TCS doesn;t cover the 9 pin witht he shrink wrap, so you can just unplug it and put in a 9 pin to 8 pin harness. A WOW101 Diesel will fit in the RS1.

https://tcsdcc.com/1530

Pretty much any of the T- harnesses would work

https://tcsdcc.com/accessories/harnesses?page=1

The WOW-121 and a motherboard would work too, and take less space.

https://tcsdcc.com/installation/ho-scale/2058

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Posted by richg1998 on Monday, March 2, 2020 4:11 PM

markie97

I have an Atlas RS1 that I would like to convert to sound. It has an 8 pin plug. I would prefer to use a Soundtrax decoder but they do not seem to make an 8 pin plugin type decoder. Any suggestions on how to convert.

 

 

SoundTraxx allows you to cut back the shrink enough to unplug the 9 pin JST connector. Order the 9 pin to eight pin adapter they sell and plug in their decoder.

Or solder and eight pin plug to the rewired wires. I have done that.

Many have done that. I have seen that in print somewhere in Soundtr5axx documentation.

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Posted by wjstix on Monday, March 2, 2020 3:51 PM

Fair enough, I can see calling that an 'eight pin'. However, the OP's question was about using a Soundtraxx decoder, and that they didn't make an eight-pin one. I was pointing out he really needs a nine-pin decoder and harness. The one advantage of a separate harness is you can fit them to what you need - short, medium or long. Although as noted you do have to pay for them separately, but they're not all that expensive.

(Personally I'd prefer the Loksound myself....)

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Posted by rrinker on Monday, March 2, 2020 3:15 PM

 If it has an 8 pin plug at the end of a wire harness, it has an 8 pin plug, no? Just because the 8 pins aren;t soldered right to the decoder board doesn't mean it's not an 8 pin decoder.

http://www.esu.eu/en/products/loksound/loksound-5-loksound-5-dcc/

First item, #58420, Loksound V5.0 with 8 pin NMRA plug.(NEM562 is the real name for that 8 pin dual row connector)

TCS likes to sell their decoders with a plain wire harness and make you DIY or else pay extra for a 9 pin to 8 pin harness. One reason I almost always hard wire my decoders - that's how they came, plus if I need to replace the decoder, it still has the 9 pin connector to take it out without desoldering everything. All of my non-sound decoders are TCS, mostly T1.

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Posted by wjstix on Monday, March 2, 2020 2:51 PM

Mark R.
DigiTrax, Soundtraxx and ESU all make sound decoders with 8-pin plugs ....

I'd like to see a link to one. A number of manufacturers make sound decoders with a harness/wire attachment to an eight-pin plug, but I don't believe any make one with just the eight-pins like the non-sound one has in this installation:

https://tcsdcc.com/installation/ho-scale/1112

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Posted by Mark R. on Monday, March 2, 2020 1:52 PM

wjstix

 

 
markie97
It has an 8 pin plug. I would prefer to use a Soundtrax decoder but they do not seem to make an 8 pin plugin type decoder.

 

You may be searching for the wrong thing. I don't think anyone makes sound decoders with an eight-pin plug directly attached to it, ....

DigiTrax, Soundtraxx and ESU all make sound decoders with 8-pin plugs ....

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Posted by wjstix on Monday, March 2, 2020 9:21 AM

markie97
It has an 8 pin plug. I would prefer to use a Soundtrax decoder but they do not seem to make an 8 pin plugin type decoder.

You may be searching for the wrong thing. I don't think anyone makes sound decoders with an eight-pin plug directly attached to it, like some non-sound decoders have. However, everyone who makes sound decoders makes decoders with a nine-pin plug. You use a short (or medium, or long, depending on what you need)harness to connect the nine-pin connection on the decoder to the eight-pin receptacle on the lightboard of the engine.

It can be confusing, as on a decoder like the Soundtraxx Tsunami TSU-2200 looks like it just has wires coming out for a 'hardwire' installation, but in fact the plastic wrap jacketing the decoder is covering the connection of the decoder to a nine-pin harness. Use a sharp hobby knife or single-edge razorblade to remove about 1/8" to 1/4" of the plastic wrap, and you can disconnect the harness and install a harness with an eight-pin plug on the other end.

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Posted by peahrens on Monday, March 2, 2020 8:18 AM

I installed a LokSound Select, hard wired, plus dual micro speakers in a custom made styrene enclosure.  Not as quick as a plug-in.

Consider TCS WowSound per this installation example.  TCS also has a good rep for motor control, and includes a Keep Alive feature.  

https://tcsdcc.com/installation/ho-scale/629

 

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Atlas RS1 to sound
Posted by markie97 on Monday, March 2, 2020 7:51 AM

I have an Atlas RS1 that I would like to convert to sound. It has an 8 pin plug. I would prefer to use a Soundtrax decoder but they do not seem to make an 8 pin plugin type decoder. Any suggestions on how to convert.

 

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