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TCS KA-2 with Soundtraxx TSU-1100

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Posted by rrinker on Wednesday, July 24, 2019 1:48 PM

richg1998

Hi Randy

At one time the cap was only for sound.

It looks like it is now for sound and motor.

I have not used the newest decoders.

Rich

 

 That they were, but once everyone else was doing it, SOundtraxx had to as well, and the decoders have that green and yellow striped wire which accesses the main power ground, which is what you have to use for a stay alive circuit to power both the sound and motor. 

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Posted by tbdanny on Wednesday, July 24, 2019 6:12 AM

Thank-you to everyone who answered.

The Location: Forests of the Pacific Northwest, Oregon
The Year: 1948
The Scale: On30
The Blog: http://bvlcorr.tumblr.com

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Posted by trainnut1250 on Wednesday, July 24, 2019 3:37 AM

Danny,

I have installed several TCS keep alives with first generation Tsunamis and econamis. They work fine.

 

Have fun,

 

Guy

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Posted by richg1998 on Tuesday, July 23, 2019 3:03 PM

Hi Randy

At one time the cap was only for sound.

It looks like it is now for sound and motor.

I have not used the newest decoders.

Rich

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Posted by rrinker on Tuesday, July 23, 2019 8:03 AM

 Yes, other than name, they are the exact same thing - some supercapacitors wired together to support the proper voltage. The TCS keep alive would conenct the same way the Soundtraxx CurrentKeeper would connect - to the same wires, with the same polarity.

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Posted by tbdanny on Tuesday, July 23, 2019 6:59 AM

Thank-you.  I've used currentkeepers in some of my previous locomotives.

But this time around, I've got a TCS KA-2 on hand instead of a Soundtraxx Currentkeeper.  Given that they're from, different manufacturers, I'm asking if they can work together and if so, how?

The Location: Forests of the Pacific Northwest, Oregon
The Year: 1948
The Scale: On30
The Blog: http://bvlcorr.tumblr.com

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Posted by Wazzzy on Tuesday, July 23, 2019 3:35 AM

https://www.soundtraxx.com/manuals/Installation-Guide.pdf

 

pg17 has the wiring diagram. Pay attention to the KA + & - connections.

 

CurrentKeeper Installation The TSU-1100 and ECO-100 both include an optional 220µF, 25V capacitor or may be used with a SoundTraxx CurrentKeeper to maintain performance during momentary power losses.
 
To install a CurrentKeeper, remove the connector and trim the blue and black wires to about 3”. Strip and tin the ends of the CurrentKeeper’s wires, as well as the decoder’s blue (Function Common) and green/yellow stripe (Ground) wires. Slide a piece of heat-shrink tubing over each of the CurrentKeeper’s wires. Solder the blue CurrentKeeper wire to the blue decoder wire, and the black CurrentKeeper wire to the decoder’s green/yellow stripe wire. Slide the pieces of  heat-shrink tubing over the connections and heat to insulate. 

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Posted by gmpullman on Tuesday, July 23, 2019 3:34 AM

The keep alive doesn't connect across the red/black pickup wires but ties in to the blue + common and the black wire that goes to the existing capacitor.

This site has some stay-alive information:

http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/mainnorth/alive.htm

Tsunami TSU-1000
 

1.  The Blue wire to the Blue Function Common wire and

2.  The Black/White trace wire to the Black wire connecting the 220 uF Capacitor (not the Black Pick Up wire).

Tony's also has some information. The trick is to find the minus side of the decoder rectifier output to connect the stay alive minus to.

https://tonystrains.com/news/how-to-add-current-keeper-to-soundtraxx-tsunami-decoders/

 

The diagram shows the Soundtraxx Current Keeper but others will wire in the same way.

Hope that helps, Ed

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TCS KA-2 with Soundtraxx TSU-1100
Posted by tbdanny on Tuesday, July 23, 2019 12:12 AM

I've got a Soundtraxx TSU-1100 decoder and a TCS KA-2 keepalive on hand, and I would like to use the two of them together.  Is it as simple as connecting the KA-2 across the TSU-1100's decoder connections, or are more modifications needed?

The Location: Forests of the Pacific Northwest, Oregon
The Year: 1948
The Scale: On30
The Blog: http://bvlcorr.tumblr.com

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