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DCC Wiring Isolation track

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Posted by asiegler on Tuesday, October 9, 2018 11:37 AM

HOmainline

Andy Sperandeo's "Easy Model Railroad Wiring" has a detailed chapter on wiring for reverse loops.  It's for DC, however, and whether or not it'll work for DCC is a mystery to me.  

All it took was a couple wires connected to the respective loop tracks and a dedicated DPDT main direction and a dedicated DPDT reverse loop toggle switch.

If you'd like, I'll send you a couple of PDF schematics showing how it's done.

Thanks I could use the PDF 

 

Forgot to say I have a DCC system

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Posted by gregc on Tuesday, October 9, 2018 5:23 AM

the image shows a common "reverse loop".   Both rails at both ends are isolated from the mainline rails.   There are DPDT polarity reversing switches for both the mainline and reverse loop.

the reverse loop reversing swith position depends on which end of the reverse loop the train enters it from the mainline.  Once in the loop, the mainline polarity needs to be reversed to match the end of the reverse loop the train will exit the loop from.   With DCC, an auto-reverser can take care of this automatically.

the loop needs to be longer than the train, otherwise metal wheels on a freight car may cause a short when the train staddles both ends of the loop.

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Posted by BigDaddy on Monday, October 8, 2018 7:26 PM

The thread is titled DCC so hopefully it is DCC.  "Hooks back" is not the usual way I have seen a reversing loop described, nor is isolation track, but it could be what the OP means. 

I always thought Confucious said a picture was worth a thousand words, but if he said it, it was never written down till the early 20th century.  The forum has very specificrequirement for posting pictures.  You cannot cheat.  See the sticky on how to post photos.

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Posted by betamax on Monday, October 8, 2018 3:48 PM

asiegler

Any good primers on how to wire up an Isolated section of track? My track layout hooks back causing polarity problems. I have isolated a good portion of my n gage track with plastic insulating rail joiners at both ends but uncertain as to how I would actually wire the track feeders to  my main trunk line.

 

Are your running analog (DC) or DCC?

If you are using DC, it gets a little complex, as soon as you flip the polarity the train would reverse, so you need to isolate the loop, and reverse the mainline.  For that you would need to DPDT switches, one for the mainline, the other for the loop, so you can match them going in and flip the mainline going out.

With DCC, you would just isolate the loop and use an autoreverser to flip the phasing of the rails at the correct time, automatically.  No mechanical human operated switches.

https://dccwiki.com/Reverse_Sections shows how this works in DCC.  These devices only work with DCC.

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Posted by HOmainline on Monday, October 8, 2018 11:34 AM

Andy Sperandeo's "Easy Model Railroad Wiring" has a detailed chapter on wiring for reverse loops.  It's for DC, however, and whether or not it'll work for DCC is a mystery to me.  

All it took was a couple wires connected to the respective loop tracks and a dedicated DPDT main direction and a dedicated DPDT reverse loop toggle switch.

If you'd like, I'll send you a couple of PDF schematics showing how it's done.

 

Kerry

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Posted by richg1998 on Monday, October 8, 2018 10:18 AM

Some years ago our club converted from DC to DCC. We had one reverse loop with a DPDT switch. We put in an auto reverser. We followed the instructions with it.

Since we ran usually in one direction, we put in a crossover and another reverser.

A program track was at the end of a yard ladder

Edit.

If you need to post a photo of your layout look at the Model Railroader, General Discussion forum. The instructions are there.

Rich

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Posted by johnnyrails on Monday, October 8, 2018 9:46 AM

You need an auto reverser...

A PSX-AR or Digitrax AR1. easy to install either one... hth

John 

 

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DCC Wiring Isolation track
Posted by asiegler on Sunday, October 7, 2018 3:27 PM

Any good primers on how to wire up an Isolated section of track? My track layout hooks back causing polarity problems. I have isolated a good portion of my n gage track with plastic insulating rail joiners at both ends but uncertain as to how I would actually wire the track feeders to  my main trunk line.

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