Gary, No open request from me --- you missed,
"9/24/2017 Edit: Gary... never mind -- got the info about CV 113 not being listed - but works.
Before first replying I checked with a company Tech --- must have gotten a new hire."
RR Baron
RR Baron Thanks for the feedback Engine Exhaust Control CV 114 =103 default value More testing if you have the time as I don’t have access to an Athearn GP7 Tsunami2 equipped. CV 113: Quiet Mode Time-Out Period Note per document, Athearn Genesis GP7 HO Scale, Factory Equipped with Tsunami2 http://soundtraxx.com/factory/images/athearn/pdf/Genesis/gp7_ATHT0102.002.B_01-17.pdf CV 113 is not listed. This indicates CV 113 is not applicable. Meaning although the value of CV 113 can be changed there is no effect as CV 113 is not supported. RR Baron 9/24/2017 Edit: Gary... never mind -- got the info about CV 113 not being listed - but works. Before first replying I checked with a company Tech --- must have gotten a new hire.
Thanks for the feedback Engine Exhaust Control CV 114 =103 default value
More testing if you have the time as I don’t have access to an Athearn GP7 Tsunami2 equipped.
CV 113: Quiet Mode Time-Out Period
Note per document, Athearn Genesis GP7 HO Scale, Factory Equipped with Tsunami2
http://soundtraxx.com/factory/images/athearn/pdf/Genesis/gp7_ATHT0102.002.B_01-17.pdf
CV 113 is not listed. This indicates CV 113 is not applicable. Meaning although the value of CV 113 can be changed there is no effect as CV 113 is not supported.
9/24/2017 Edit: Gary... never mind -- got the info about CV 113 not being listed - but works.
Before first replying I checked with a company Tech --- must have gotten a new hire.
On vacation, will check when I get back.
Gary
Tsunami2 was factory installed
I use a NCE Power Cab
Part # ATHG65464
CV 7= 71
CV 8= 141
CV 31= 16
CV 32= 1
CV 105 (varies withsoft ware rev.) = 1
CV 106 (varies withsoft ware rev.) = 1
CV 253= 3
CV 254= 2
CV 255= 8
CV 256= 8
CV 113 not listed in quick guide does not mean it is not available. I read cv113 it read 0 changed it to 15 for 15 second delay in turning off sound (speed step must be at 0 and all functions must be off (eg headlight etc.) sound will return with headlight or speed step being activated. Good luck Dan
RR Baron Thanks for the feedback Engine Exhaust Control CV 114 =103 default value More testing if you have the time as I don’t have access to an Athearn GP7 Tsunami2 equipped. CV 113: Quiet Mode Time-Out Period Note per document, Athearn Genesis GP7 HO Scale, Factory Equipped with Tsunami2 http://soundtraxx.com/factory/images/athearn/pdf/Genesis/gp7_ATHT0102.002.B_01-17.pdf CV 113 is not listed. This indicates CV 113 is not applicable. Meaning although the value of CV 113 can be changed there is no effect as CV 113 is not supported. Edit : CV 113 is not listed. This indicates CV 113 is not applicable. After feedback and examining the document, CV 113 not being list indicates no change to CV 113 as listed in aftermarket decoder manuals. RR Baron
Edit :
CV 113 is not listed. This indicates CV 113 is not applicable.
After feedback and examining the document, CV 113 not being list indicates no change to CV 113 as listed in aftermarket decoder manuals.
Ref: Document Intent
I will contact SoundTraxx to see if the Document for Athearn products contains only CVs that differ from the aftermarket Trsunami2 Technical Reference. Or if there is a BUT or other exception to,
" . . . . a quick reference document specific to that engine. For a complete breakdown of all of the CVs and Tsunami2's capabilities, please refer to the User’s Guide and Technical Reference in the Manuals section of our website."
Quote SoundTraxx
DanO22 I have a tsunami2 on a athearn gp38-2 the quiet mode time out mode is available and a feature that is very nice. You can set the the time out peeriod to your liking 0 to 255 seconds. Dan
I have a tsunami2 on a athearn gp38-2 the quiet mode time out mode is available and a feature that is very nice. You can set the the time out peeriod to your liking 0 to 255 seconds.
Dan
Dan,
Is Tsunami2 factory installed? Yes / No
What DCC system do you use to program and read CVs?
What is Part Number from box end label? ATHG654++
What is value of following CVs read from decoder?
CV 7
CV 8
CV 31
CV 32
CV 105
CV 106
CV 253
CV 254
CV 255
CV 256
YES the default setting fro CV114 was in fact 103.
rrinker Except that he said when he read CV114, it was 32, >>>>>>. --Randy
Except that he said when he read CV114, it was 32, >>>>>>.
--Randy
Did not look to see what Gary wrote as CV 114 = 32 being default is not likely seeing it requires manual notching. Dismissed your or his as typo. Perhaps CV 114 = 39 as that is the default in the aftermarket SoundTraxxTsunami2 decoder.
It does bring to mind the issue of -- parts of documentation not agreeing with the installed decoder -- . Have not read or seen much about this with Athearn equipped with SoundTraxx OEM decoder but too prevalent with Bachmann equipped with sound decoders manufactured to Bachmann’s specifications by SoundTraxx.
Gary, if you have time to check, I would be interested to know if CV 114 = 103 is the default for the SoundTraxx OEM Tsunami2 decoder installed in the Athearn locomotive you have.
Ref: http://soundtraxx.com/factory/images/athearn/pdf/Genesis/gp7_ATHT0102.002.B_01-17.pdf
This has been a very frustrating process and it's still not what I want which is the loco stays quiet until I select it and hit a function key to start-up.
Great case for not buying Soundtraxx
Except that he said when he read CV114, it was 32, so 7 is the correct value to disable auto start.
I will throw a great big party when the end of special OEM decoders finally ends. You have at LEAST 4 sets of possible instructions for Tsunamis - the version for the full decoder bought seperately, the version as installed in Athearn, the version as installed in Walthers, and the version as installed by Bachmann. It's nuts. I'll stick to Bowser and Atlas and get a FULL Loksound decoder in each one, not some feature-chopped version. It's not like Athearn and Walthers sell ther locos for less than the equivalent Atlas and Bowser. On Bachmann seems to use the lower price reduced feature decoder to actually offer sound locos at a lower price than the others.
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Gary,
CV 114 - Engine Exhaust Control
For ATHG62929 - CV 114 = 103 is the default value per Athearn specifications to SoundTraxx.
By setting CV 114 = 7 in addition to changing when sound starts, which you wanted; you also changed the Dynamic Braking Mode from "Idle speed (notch 1)" to "Normal operation". If you want Idle speed (notch 1), the default per Athearn specifications, then set
CV 114 = 71
RR Baron Gary, That indicates I was using the wrong instructions. However, per Athearn their HO Genesis GP7 equipped with SoundTraxx Tsunami2 were not due until May 2018. Not the first time I've gotten incorrect info from a manufacturer. FYI -- Tsunami and Tsunami2 are product lines of sound decoders manufactured by SoundTraxx, so you contacted SoundTraxx Now some more info from you - What is the information on the box end label? Using your DCC system -- Read the following CVs, what is the value in each? CV 7 CV 8 CV 105 CV 106 CV 253 CV 255 CV 113 CV 114 RR Baron
That indicates I was using the wrong instructions. However, per Athearn their HO Genesis GP7 equipped with SoundTraxx Tsunami2 were not due until May 2018.
Not the first time I've gotten incorrect info from a manufacturer.
FYI -- Tsunami and Tsunami2 are product lines of sound decoders manufactured by SoundTraxx, so you contacted SoundTraxx
Now some more info from you -
What is the information on the box end label?
Using your DCC system -- Read the following CVs, what is the value in each?
CV 113
CV 114
CV7=071
CV8=141
CV105=001
CV106=001
CV253=003
CV255=008
CV113=150
CV114=007
rrinker SO now how does it start, when you go to speed step 1? This is how the Bowser Tsunami I had worked. Quiet when track power was turned on, no noise at all until speed step 1. Have to say, I found that an unacceptable way to start up the sounds since the loco also started moving on step 1. And consisting it with others was nearly impossible, at least from the sound point of view - motor wise it ran fine with other locos. --Randy
SO now how does it start, when you go to speed step 1? This is how the Bowser Tsunami I had worked. Quiet when track power was turned on, no noise at all until speed step 1. Have to say, I found that an unacceptable way to start up the sounds since the loco also started moving on step 1. And consisting it with others was nearly impossible, at least from the sound point of view - motor wise it ran fine with other locos.
Randy you're correct, SS1, it is not ideal but I'm going to try to up CV4 to see if I can send speed step 1 and immediately send 0. May be a workaround. There's got to be a better way or that's my first and last Tsunami Deoder.
BigDaddy Looks like CV 114 to 7 but I sometimes get the wrong end of the stick
Looks like CV 114 to 7 but I sometimes get the wrong end of the stick
Big Daddy - Yes CV114=7
RR Baron later today I'll get you the CV info, The box is stored away so that may not happen until i get back from vacation.
Henry
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Shenandoah Valley
gdelmoro That Worked!
That Worked!
which one? CV 114, CV 116 or CV 113? and value?
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Ok takled to the Tech Rep at Model Train Stuff who told me to set CV116 to 7 when I told him I already tried that he referred me to Athearn tech support. Athearn told me I had to set CV113 to 8. I told him I tried that too so he refered me to Tsunami.
Tsunami tells me that the Athearn Genesis GP7 model has a Tsunami 2 sound decoder in it and I need to set CV114 to 7. The default is 39 which includes the autostart setting of 32. Subtract the 32 and the value is 7.
I'll try it tonight.
RR Baron BigDaddy Renegade1c Well turns out that OEM decoders use a different CV than their other decoders. Its actually CV116 for OEM decoders not 114. So this whole thread was based on #FAKEInstructions, who woulda thunk? Not based on #FAKEInstructions but the wrong instructions. Confusion has been created by applying Tsunami2 instructions to a Tsunami decoder. Fact - Tsunami2 instructions cannot be use for a Tsunami decoder and vice versa. The decoder factory installed in the Athearn Genesis GP7 currently in the market is a SoundTraxx Athearn Genesis OEM Tsunami decoder. The next release of the Athearn Genesis GP7 scheduled for May 2018 that use SoundTraxx will contain a SoundTraxx Athearn OEM Tsunami2 decoder per Athearn. RR Baron
BigDaddy Renegade1c Well turns out that OEM decoders use a different CV than their other decoders. Its actually CV116 for OEM decoders not 114. So this whole thread was based on #FAKEInstructions, who woulda thunk?
Renegade1c Well turns out that OEM decoders use a different CV than their other decoders. Its actually CV116 for OEM decoders not 114.
So this whole thread was based on #FAKEInstructions, who woulda thunk?
Not based on #FAKEInstructions but the wrong instructions.
Confusion has been created by applying Tsunami2 instructions to a Tsunami decoder.
Fact - Tsunami2 instructions cannot be use for a Tsunami decoder and vice versa.
The decoder factory installed in the Athearn Genesis GP7 currently in the market is a SoundTraxx Athearn Genesis OEM Tsunami decoder. The next release of the Athearn Genesis GP7 scheduled for May 2018 that use SoundTraxx will contain a SoundTraxx Athearn OEM Tsunami2 decoder per Athearn.
Yeah I screwed up thats why I posted a correction. I realized after my initial post that I looked at the regular user guide and not the one directly associated with the GP-7 in question.
I will play with one of my Tsunami's at home and see if i can you a value you need to disable this feature.
Not sure how Bachmann got into the mix. I have an Athearn Genesis GP7 purchased new several months ago from Model Train Stuff. As I understand the posts and replies it has a Soundtraxx decoder.
I'm still unable to get it to stay quiet until I select the loco or a function key.
Tried to call Athearn Tech Support but their website number does not work for Tech Support. Guess I'll try Tsunami.
wjstix I have a Bachmann 2-10-0 with a Sound Value decoder that I was able to set so it doesn't start making sound until I enter the engine address. Not sure how I did it now. . . .
I have a Bachmann 2-10-0 with a Sound Value decoder that I was able to set so it doesn't start making sound until I enter the engine address. Not sure how I did it now. . . .
An aside
wjstix,
You set CV 113 Quiet Mode Timeout Period.
A Bachmann HO USRA 2-10-0 Decapod factory equipped with sound is equipped with a SoundTraxx Bachmann OEM Tsunami decoder not a SoundTraxx Bachmann OEM Sound Value decoder. The Tsunami and Sound Value are different SoundTraxx family of decoders.
BTW, Sound Value does not support CV 113.
RR Barron
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So what is the correct CV for the Soundtraxx Tsunami decoder? I looked at the diesel sound manual ant it says it's CV113 (Pg47). the CV116 did not work Nor did the CV114. CV113 set to 150 worked the first try, then I turned power off and then on again and the loco started up. When I tilted it and pit it back down it was silent until I hit a function key. I could repeat this consistently but layout power off and then on again starts sound up.
Using the Quiet Mode
Tsunami’s Quiet Mode is used to turn the sound on only after the decoder is placed into service. It will also automatically turn the sound effects off when the decoder is not being used. This is particularly useful when you have a large number of sound equipped engines on your layout and don’t wish to have them turn all at once!
To activate the Quiet Mode, simply program CV 113 to any non-zero value between 1 and 255. This value sets the amount of time in tenth second increments, that the decoder will wait before it turns the audio off. Thus, a setting of 120 corresponds to 12.0 seconds.
When the Quiet Mode is active, the decoder will remain quiet when it is rst powered up and then automatically turn on the audio whenever it receives a non-zero speed command or any function is turned on (except Mute). It will automatically mute the audio when the locomotive speed is returned to zero, all functions are turned off and the time set in CV 113 has elapsed.
Setting CV 113 to 0 disables this feature and the sounds will turn on immediately when the decoder is powered up and remain turned on for the duration of the operating session.
I have a Bachmann 2-10-0 with a Sound Value decoder that I was able to set so it doesn't start making sound until I enter the engine address. Not sure how I did it now. I have some other Tsunami-equipped engines where I dial in the ID number then have to momentarily advance the throttle to get sound to start.
Tsunamis in general are pretty complicated to set up. There are other sound decoders that are easier to adjust regarding sound start-up, I believe Lok-sound decoders default is to not make sound until you hit a 'start up' function button.
Original Equipment Manufacturer, which means 2 things, Athearn puts Tsunami boards in Athearn locos, in this case, and Tsunami also sells their boards through retail outlets.
Your computer has a hard drive. Let's suppose it is a Dell and it has a Western Digital hard drive. You can find on Ebay, an OEM hard disk that is made by Western Dig that is exactly the same. You can also buy Western Digital hard drives, which will also work, but maybe bigger or smaller, faster or slower than the original in your computer.
Back to decoders. They maybe the same as a retail version, but more probably they differ in certain specifications. In this case which CV's do a certain function. The Bachmann sound value decoders always turn on with power, for example.