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How many amps does each sound/dcc engine have. Engines made in the last 5 years or less.

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Posted by richg1998 on Thursday, July 7, 2016 6:17 PM

If not into using a meter, the RRampMeter by DCC specialties the easiest way to go.

Ten amp and twenty amp versions.

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Posted by richhotrain on Thursday, July 7, 2016 5:39 PM

DAVID FORTNEY

Thanks guys, sorry for asking such a difficult question. 

 

David, seriously, do yourself a favor and buy a RRampMeter.  It is a bit pricey, but you will love it for what it does.

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Posted by richg1998 on Thursday, July 7, 2016 3:27 PM

Not difficult, just not sure of what you really wanted. Good to ask.

I have belonged to a bunch of train forums for some years and I recall maybe three who smoked decoders because they had no idea on how much current their locos would draw.

DCC is really more complex than many realise.

The link I posted for doing this is not very complicated if you follow the directions.

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Posted by DAVID FORTNEY on Thursday, July 7, 2016 3:12 PM

Thanks guys, sorry for asking such a difficult question. 

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Posted by richg1998 on Thursday, July 7, 2016 3:08 PM

For my HO scale locos, I have measured about 300 ma up to about 800 ma. One older MDC all metal 4-4-2 measured about 1.5 amps as I recall. Remotored by NWSL for me.

Don't depend only what anyone here says. Measure.

Decoders can me costly when it comes to sound decoders.

Your mileage, amps may vary.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 7, 2016 2:41 PM

Rich , that´s quite correct, but not what the OP asked for.

Blame it on my poor English, if I did not made myself understood correctly.

Most decoders are safe for a motor current draw of up to 1 amp and, additionally, up to 250 milli-amps for each function lead.

Oh, btw, engines don´t "have" amps, they draw amps from the power source.

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Posted by carl425 on Thursday, July 7, 2016 2:30 PM

Sir Madog
The only answer that can be given is < 1 amp!

Sorry, but I don't believe that is correct.  The correct non-answer (IMO) is "up to 1-amp for the motor PLUS whatever the sound system draws".

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Posted by richhotrain on Thursday, July 7, 2016 1:22 PM

Sir Madog

This is one of those questions that lead to nowhere!

The only answer that can be given is < 1 amp!

 

That may be the answer, but the specific measure of current draw can be determined. Cool

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 7, 2016 1:19 PM

This is one of those questions that lead to nowhere!

The only answer that can be given is < 1 amp!

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Posted by richhotrain on Thursday, July 7, 2016 1:08 PM

Operated properly, a RRampMeter should show you the current draw (amps) on a specific locomotive.

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Posted by tstage on Thursday, July 7, 2016 1:04 PM

David,

IIRC, for "newer" sound decoders - it's generally 1/2A or less.  For non-sound - 1/4A.

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Posted by carl425 on Thursday, July 7, 2016 12:50 PM

Sir Madog
and most other sound decoders are rated at 1 Amp

That "rating" only specifies how much load the decoder can support from the motor.  It doesn't include the current draw of the sound circuitry and says nothing about the actual draw from the motor.

I believe what the OP is looking for is the result of some measurements somebody has done on the current draw of a locomotive they have measured.  It's like all the folks that are telling him where to get meters have never actually measured anything with them or are for some reeason witholding the results.

I know this is one of those "your mileage may vary" kind of questions, but it's not like he's going to send the congressional oversite committee after you if your answer turns out to be wrong.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 7, 2016 11:49 AM

ESU LokSound V4.0 decoders and most other sound decoders are rated at 1 Amp, which should be more than sufficient for locomotives recently manufactured. Older locos with open-frame motors draw much more than that.

The actual rating depends on a number of things and can vary even with two of the same locos from the same manufacturer. It´s not possible to establish a general value.

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Posted by DAVID FORTNEY on Thursday, July 7, 2016 11:26 AM

Is it usually 1/2 amp, 3/4 amp or other for a sound equipped locomotive. I'm not looking for exact measurements. 

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Posted by richg1998 on Wednesday, July 6, 2016 5:08 PM

Use the below link. Get a couple of these meters. I have four. Easy to misplace at times. Got mine for a couple dollars each. Even on ebay. Some meter faces look a little different but suspect they all come from same company in China.

http://www.trainelectronics.com/Meter_HF/index.htm

Use one on the 20ma DC scale with a few components. I built one for me and one for the club. I used the ZXCT circuit. This guy test all his circuits.

http://home.cogeco.ca/~rpaisley4/DCCvolts.html

The meters read 13.6 vac from my NCE Power Cab and very handy for finding defective feeders. Been told a couple times not good for DCC but have never had any issues. Much cheaper than a Ramp meter.

If I suspect spiking, I use my Scope but on a home layout, never had any spiking. Was a decoder issue.

There is a DCC and electrical forum right nearby.

Rich

 

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Posted by josephbw on Wednesday, July 6, 2016 4:48 PM

I have 21 engines with decoders in them. No two have the same amperage draw. To get an accurate answer you need to get an amp meter.

There are many factors that contribute to the amps drawn. Plus as the engine gets broken in, the amps will usually start to drop.

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How many amps does each sound/dcc engine have. Engines made in the last 5 years or less.
Posted by DAVID FORTNEY on Wednesday, July 6, 2016 4:36 PM

i don't have an amp meter to measure the amount of amps being used. Can somebody help me with this? 

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