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Code 100doiuble crossover i found is this DCC friendly?

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Posted by rrinker on Wednesday, June 22, 2016 7:33 AM

About half way down this page are instructions for modifying the Walthers old style (same as the Shinohara Code 100) double crossover for reliable DCC operation:

http://www.webring.org/l/rd?ring=modelrailroading;id=13;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ewiringfordcc%2Ecom%2Fswitches_walthers_old%2Ehtm

There are actually 2 sets of instructions, slightly different methods. It's after the turnouts but before the 3-way.

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Posted by SouthPenn on Tuesday, June 21, 2016 6:54 PM

SpartanCook

To answer everyones questions this is a shinohara code 100. it is older in a brown box. Looks quite old.

 

Maybe a better question is, is there a good option for a code 100 layout that is plug and run for DCC? A double crossover would solve a lot of problems for my layout and i would like one that will work will little to no effort right away

 

If it is a Shinohara code 100 double cross over it is not the so-called 'DCC ready'. But, if it is installed with the polaity ( or phasing ) the same on all the tracks connected to it and all four switches are thrown at the same time, it works fine on DCC.

What could be easier? 

 

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Posted by SpartanCook on Tuesday, June 21, 2016 6:45 PM

To answer everyones questions this is a shinohara code 100. it is older in a brown box. Looks quite old.

 

Maybe a better question is, is there a good option for a code 100 layout that is plug and run for DCC? A double crossover would solve a lot of problems for my layout and i would like one that will work will little to no effort right away

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Posted by SouthPenn on Tuesday, June 21, 2016 2:07 PM

If it is a Shinohara code 100 double cross over it is not the so-called 'DCC ready'. But, if it is installed with the polaity ( or phasing ) the same on all the tracks connected to it and all four switches are thrown at the same time, it works fine on DCC. 

I have two on my layout and I am using NCE DCC. No problems even with 6 axle SD40-2s. I have two more that will be installed soon, I hope.

If you try to modify it as some insist you must do, you will most likely trash it. Been there, done that.

Only the Walthers/Shinohara code 83 double crossovers are DCC friendly.

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Posted by gmpullman on Tuesday, June 21, 2016 12:56 PM

retsignalmtr
Shinnohara Walthers double crossover

Shinohara only produced code 83 under the Walthers brand name. Early runs were Power-Routing type. After about 2002 they began marketing the All-Live (AKA "DCC Friendly") type with the insulated throwbar and isolated frog.

If it is code 100 it was sold directly by Shinohara, in a brown & white box, and it IS a power-routing type turnout.

If you look at the points, as Randy says, there will be a solid metal strip soldered across the two points. 

Good Luck, Ed

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Posted by rrinker on Tuesday, June 21, 2016 6:59 AM

 You generally can't tell just by looking at a photo - although it would be more likely to tell if the picture included the points and throwbars.

 Pretty much all makes of commercial track stamp their name and/or a product ID in the ties on the bottom, that would be the most useful info to tell if it's wired to be DCC friendly or not.

 Plus in many cases it doesn't matter - as long as your wheels are all RP25 compliant and in gauge.

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Posted by retsignalmtr on Tuesday, June 21, 2016 6:57 AM

Shinnohara Walthers double crossover. My club has two on the layout. Older style code 100. real pains. Newer models are supposed to be more (?) DCC friendly. 

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Code 100doiuble crossover i found is this DCC friendly?
Posted by SpartanCook on Tuesday, June 21, 2016 6:34 AM

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