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Plug placement on a Paragon 2 decoder?

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Posted by Graffen on Monday, May 16, 2016 2:50 PM

Yes, I think the smoke unit is the culprit. I guess it broke the first decoder.

It is disconnected and at the desk now.

I will email BLI and see if they have a replacement unit.

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Posted by gmpullman on Monday, May 16, 2016 10:24 AM

I wonder if the fan ran all the time anyway? Try unplugging the single wire in the 9 pin plug, which should also be on the same wire as the switch under the cab, so that is rather odd.

The only thing I can think of for the headlight is that somehow the polarity got reversed? A little poking with a meter should confirm that. 

This diagram  is from a NYC Hudson but may share some of the same assignments as the 8 pin.

BLI still might use #3 & #4 for the headlight? Or as a last resort, email or call them as Rich suggested.

http://cs.trains.com/mrr/f/744/t/253921.aspx

I found the "Loco Guy" thread and maybe there is something you can pick up from there. In his case a BAD SMOKE UNIT was the culprit after he returned the engine to BLI. Go to last responses.

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Posted by Graffen on Monday, May 16, 2016 4:00 AM
Well, part success... It works, but the fan for the smoke won't shut off, regardless of the switch setting?!? And the front light has stopped working. Hmmm....

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Posted by gmpullman on Sunday, May 15, 2016 5:53 PM

Graffen
BTW, as the trucks have their own power cables, which side takes up power to which color?

Front Truck = Black Wire = Right Rail

Rear Truck = Gray Wire = Left Rail

I hope that gets you back in business...

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Posted by gmpullman on Sunday, May 15, 2016 3:26 PM

Graffen
BTW, as the trucks have their own power cables, which side takes up power to which color?

I'll get back to you on that...

Graffen
I'm very grateful!

Grateful is nice... Beer Beer Beer is better!

If I ever get to your neighborhood, you owe me one (or three Smile )

Glad I could be of some help,

Ed

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Posted by Graffen on Sunday, May 15, 2016 12:44 PM

I'm very grateful!

I will do the install this evening. I'll get back!

:-)

BTW, as the trucks have their own power cables, which side takes up power to which color?

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Posted by gmpullman on Sunday, May 15, 2016 10:01 AM

Graffen
Ed, that's the one!

Ok, Graffen, P.B. is back on-line.

Here's what I have. Two crude sketches, both essentially the same but I tried to clean up one of them.

 

And a few photos...

 

 

I hope there's enough there for you to go by.

I'll leave the shell off in the event you need another photo for clarification or have another question.

Regards and Good Luck, Ed

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Posted by gmpullman on Saturday, May 14, 2016 6:49 PM

OK, Graffen

I'll open the T1 and get the routings for the wiring for you later this evening. I recall helping Old Loco Guy or such with his BLI a few months ago and that's when I took this photo.

Check back later for an update.

[edit]Later... (3 AM EDT)

I have more photos and sketches; Photobucket is DOWN again, the kitten is dancing!

I'll check back in an hour but then it's off to zzZZzz.

45 minutes Later...

Still no P'bucket. You would think with all the time out for maintenance they do it would be the hottest property on the internet... NOT.

I'll try to post Sunday afternoon (GMT -5)

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Posted by Graffen on Saturday, May 14, 2016 6:11 PM

gmpullman

 

 
Graffen
Anyone?
 

 

 

Did your decoder look like this? Or was it an older QSI board?

If I recall this one is in a PRR T1. I do not have the Y6b but I imagine the guts are all pretty much the same. PCI was making decoders for BLI. I have a bunch lying around. If the one above looks like yours let me know and I'll get you more info on it.

Regards, Ed

 

Ed, that's the one!

 

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Posted by gmpullman on Saturday, May 14, 2016 5:37 PM

Graffen
Anyone?
 

Did your decoder look like this? Or was it an older QSI board?

If I recall this one is in a PRR T1. I do not have the Y6b but I imagine the guts are all pretty much the same. PCI was making decoders for BLI. I have a bunch lying around. If the one above looks like yours let me know and I'll get you more info on it.

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Posted by richg1998 on Saturday, May 14, 2016 2:14 PM

Have you contacted BLI? That is what I would have done first rather than a forum.

Rich

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Posted by Graffen on Saturday, May 14, 2016 4:08 AM
Anyone?

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Plug placement on a Paragon 2 decoder?
Posted by Graffen on Friday, May 13, 2016 3:46 PM

Hi all!

I had a blown decoder in a Paragon 2 equipped Y6b which BLI sent a replacement for. They wanted the faulty decoder back, so I photographed the decoder in the tender before removing it.

The problem is that the pics are gone.....

Anyone know where the connectors should be? And also which side the insulated wheels should be on the tender....

Hope someone can help.

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