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Posted by rrinker on Thursday, April 7, 2016 12:51 PM

 If you have a simple balloon loop where the auto turnout throw woudl work, you don;t really need an autoreverser - just a relay triggered b the switch machine contacts (and that only because most switch machine contacts are only rated to switch 1 amp or less). A DPDT relay wired as a reversing switch feeding power to the isolated loop trackage, and then the relay coil triggered by a switch machine contact will reverse the loop to match the main automatically when the turnout is thrown to allow the train to pass. Cheap, effective, and no shorts.

                    --Randy

 


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Posted by Stevert on Wednesday, April 6, 2016 1:16 PM

SouthPenn

 

 
Stevert

I hve two AR-1's that work well, even with mu'ed sound locos.  No jerkiness, stoppage, or sound cutouts.

PSX-AR's are supposed to work "better" than the AR-1 because they're solid-state rather than relay-based, but they're more than twice the cost of the AR-1.

 

 

 

True, but the AR-1s won't throw the switch and they don't have a circut breaker in them like the PSX-ARs.

 

You are correct, the AR-1 does not have those features.

But if you don't need your auto-reversers to perform those functions (I don't), it's nothing but added cost with no benefit.

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Posted by SouthPenn on Wednesday, April 6, 2016 11:47 AM

Stevert

I hve two AR-1's that work well, even with mu'ed sound locos.  No jerkiness, stoppage, or sound cutouts.

PSX-AR's are supposed to work "better" than the AR-1 because they're solid-state rather than relay-based, but they're more than twice the cost of the AR-1.

 

True, but the AR-1s won't throw the switch and they don't have a circut breaker in them like the PSX-ARs.

South Penn
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Posted by MisterBeasley on Wednesday, April 6, 2016 9:58 AM

You may need to adjust the trip current settings on the reversers.

I use a couple of older PS-REVs, the predecessors of the PSX-ARs.  They are solid state and work very well, even after 10 years of service.

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Posted by Stevert on Wednesday, April 6, 2016 8:20 AM

I hve two AR-1's that work well, even with mu'ed sound locos.  No jerkiness, stoppage, or sound cutouts.

PSX-AR's are supposed to work "better" than the AR-1 because they're solid-state rather than relay-based, but they're more than twice the cost of the AR-1.

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Posted by Water Level Route on Wednesday, April 6, 2016 8:17 AM

I have two AR-1s and have had zero issues with them.  No jerkiness or sound cut-out.  Only the faintest "click" sound when it reverses polarity.  Just be sure to follow the instructions on adjusting the sensitivity.

Mike

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Posted by NP01 on Wednesday, April 6, 2016 7:11 AM

My AR1 has been pretty fast, but occasionally causes a "hiccup" ...

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Posted by gmpullman on Tuesday, April 5, 2016 7:36 PM

I have two PSX-ARs and they work silently and flawlessly without a hitch.

Haven't gotten around to wiring up the one AR-1 I have.

Three Hex Frog Juicers (18 frogs total) also work silently in the background. It is similar to an autoreverser but on a smaller scale.

regards, Ed

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Posted by SouthPenn on Tuesday, April 5, 2016 7:09 PM

I have had that problem when the train was too long for the reversing loop. When the engine touched the exit gaps, there were still cars rolling over the entry gaps.

I also had this problem when using Digitax AR-1 reversers. It happened mostly with multiple locomotive consist. The AR-1 just wasn't fast enough and at times the relay seemed to hang up.

I now use PSX-AR reversers from Tony's Train Exchange. Not only do they reverse the track polarity but also through the switch. They are all electronic and extremely fast. No jerkiness, just a smooth transition.

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Posted by BigDaddy on Tuesday, April 5, 2016 6:39 PM

And does sound drop out?

Henry

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Reverser question
Posted by ndbprr on Tuesday, April 5, 2016 6:36 PM

Is there any jerkiness or train stoppage during the short circuit detection or polarity reversal? Is there a superior product and why?  Thank you

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